25-08-2002 06:03									#1
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Assuming we get a leader from our war with the French, what should we use him for?

It appears there are three choices:

A) Build an army so that we can construct the Heroic Epic an hopefully be swimming in Leaders for years to come.

B) Use him for a Great Wonder. I think that Sun Tzu's or J.S. Bach would be good choices, depending on our overall strategy.

C) Build the Forbiden Palace to reduce our corruption and facilitate infrastructure.

I think I lean toward C, but I am opening up for debate.

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	25-08-2002 06:11									#2
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C. Uber Isle might be a new continent, and if we plan on expanding, we would more than likely colonize it. Having the Forbiddin Palace on a different continent would do wonders for the cities also on it.

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	25-08-2002 06:17									#3
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If we plan on doing some more conquest after the French, which I'm in favor of, it would be nice to have an army for Uber to play with.

	25-08-2002 06:24									#4
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The only reason we'd create an army, I think, is so we could build the wonders that require that you have an army, including one which is supposed to increase the frequency of Great Leaders. Army's are nice toys, but we really need the FP or a wonder more now, but if I could be convinced that we'd get more Great Leaders from that one Small Wonder, then I could be convinced...

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	25-08-2002 06:27									#5
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Armies tend to become obsolete fairly quickly especially with Knights and Pikemen right around the corner.

Forbidden Palace sounds good, but I wouldn't hold out for that based on that island being a continent. It could easily be just big enough for one city site.

	25-08-2002 06:51									#6
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Armies are obsolete, but not the ability to create them. I have fought an army of modern armor. Not fun. I would bet you it started with an army of knights or before, who were succesfull , and so more armies were to come.

	25-08-2002 08:01									#7
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A) BUild an army so we have a greater chance of more leaders and have the ability to make the Military Academy eventually which I find to be quite useful.

If we do build an army, which should wait to do it with knights though so it at least gets some usage during the middle ages.

	25-08-2002 08:19									#8
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A to

	25-08-2002 09:10									#9
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rush build anything that cant be rush built without the leader.

	25-08-2002 09:44									#10
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Personally, I wouldn't do anything fast. In the long run, I'm undecided between army for the army wonders and rushing a wonder, but I'd probably wait at least another twenty turns before making any decisions, or until something good popped up.

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	25-08-2002 13:29									#11
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Building an army and winning so we can build the heroic epic and then build it pays off in the long run.

	25-08-2002 13:35									#12
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I would wait to see if we get a leader before I vote for any option.

	25-08-2002 16:08									#13
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definitely keep him in reserve for an emergency.

	25-08-2002 16:15									#14
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I suggest that we start a poll. Options are:

* Use to build an army so we can build Heroic Epic and Military Academy.
* Rush a wonder (Sun Tzu's, J.S. Bach's or Leonardo's).
* Rush a Forbidden Palace.
* Keep in reserve for an emergency.

Length of poll: 4 days.

	25-08-2002 17:27									#15
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military academy?? Armies cost so much anyways you almost need a leader to rush em . The only advantage is that you can rush buy them, but they're still really expensive.

	25-08-2002 17:50									#16
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Okay, just Heroic Epic then.

* Use to build an army so we can build Heroic Epic and Military Academy.
* Rush a wonder (Sun Tzu's, J.S. Bach's or Leonardo's).
* Rush a Forbidden Palace.
* Keep in reserve for an emergency.

Shall I start the poll or does anyone want to change these options?

	25-08-2002 18:10									#17
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Actually, Military Academy might be useful if we've got one really developed city in the Modern age... even if it is twenty turns per army, as someone said (forget who), an army of Modern Armor is practically unstopable.

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	25-08-2002 18:13									#18
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Civman - I usually have several cities that produce armies in 3-4 turns.

	25-08-2002 19:49									#19
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hi ,

the GL should build an army , if it gets out of date , we can always let the army rush something , ....

have a nice day

	25-08-2002 20:31									#20
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You can't rush a project with a leader once it has built an army.

	25-08-2002 21:03									#21
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quote: Originally posted by Shiber You can't rush a project with a leader once it has built an army.

hi

the GL should built an army , ones that army is outdated and of no more use we should disband it in a city or town or metropolis , in order to rush some type of improvement , like for example a university or factory , ...



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	25-08-2002 21:14									#22
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Okay, that's a different thing. I support that but only if the army is significantly outdated and has no use in the battlefield.

	25-08-2002 21:22									#23
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quote: Originally posted by Shiber Okay, that's a different thing. I support that but only if the army is significantly outdated and has no use in the battlefield.

huh , that is what it says , ...in the above posts , .....

	25-08-2002 21:23									#24
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Building the Forbidden Palace with a leader is silly. If you want to use the leader to rush, it should only be for a wonder that can only be built by one civ. We can always build the Palace when we need it; once something like J.S. Bach's is built, it's built forever and we can't get it.

I think either build an army so we have access to those wonders, or rush something that we really need and don't have the time to build before someone else does.

	25-08-2002 21:42									#25
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quote: Originally posted by panag huh , that is what it says , ...in the above posts , .....

No, you said rush. Disbanding a unit inside a city to convert it to a few shields isn't rushing.
You produce good ideas from time to time, but sometimes people don't understand you well because you don't phrase them clearly enough and your ideas are lost.

	25-08-2002 21:50									#26
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quote: Originally posted by panag hi , the GL should build an army , if it gets out of date , we can always let the army rush something , .... have a nice day

hi ,

that is what it says

now , for ones and for all , there is no need to tell people what they wrote

stop it , stay on topic

thanks

have a nice day

	25-08-2002 21:56									#27
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panag you trip too much, take it all personal.

and im sorry but if i have to hear "thank have a nice day" too much more i'm going to go out of my damned mind.

	25-08-2002 22:01									#28
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quote: Originally posted by Reddawg panag you trip too much, take it all personal. and im sorry but if i have to hear "thank have a nice day" too much more i'm going to go out of my damned mind.

hi ,

nothing personal on this side , its just not funny when someone says over and over again , 'but you did not write that' , or tries to implement something else , ....

in short , what is written the first time is short , and easy to understand , ....there should be no need for lenghty explanations each time only a couple people post something , ....

now , drop the subject , there is room enough in the OT threads about it , ...

or use PMs

have a nice day

	26-08-2002 00:04									#29
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Our first GL should be an army. The army opens up the heroic epic, petegon, and military academy. Also with the ability to build armies we are more powerful.

	26-08-2002 00:12									#30
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quote: Originally posted by Sheik Our first GL should be an army. The army opens up the heroic epic, petegon, and military academy. Also with the ability to build armies we are more powerful.

hi ,

indeed

just imagine what an army of swordsman would do now , ......

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