26-08-2002 03:45									#1
	Can the War Chariot still be upgraded to horseman? Tired of ads?

Did they change it so you can't upgrade war chariots at all? I have about 40 in my current game and was gonna upgrade. Tried to at a barracks in a city that is connected next to my capital and there was no upgrade option.

In the civilopedia it says they upgrade to horsemen. Did they change this in a patch?

If so that sucks I'm gonna have to disband 40 chariots ouch....

	26-08-2002 03:50									#2
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No, it ain't that bad.

WCs upgrade to Knights. So basically, they're cheap and early Horsemen that can't travel unroaded jungle or mountains.

Horses are concurrent.

This was changed in the patch that put UUs into the upgrade path.

	26-08-2002 03:55									#3
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oh ok, no biggie then. This is my first game as Egypt in a while and they are incredibly strong. They are hands down the most powerful civ to play. I am owning bigtime on emperor with them.. I usually play monarch but emperor actually seems easier at least this current game lol. Only difference I notice is that barbarians seem to be more aggressive.

Also, I heard some here saying egypt isn't a good civ for conquest and are more a builder civ..and the war chariot is a weak UU. I usually play china, aztecs, or germany and I can say Egypt is one of the BEST military civs and the war chariot is a kickass UU IMHO. You really have the best of both worlds...builder/conquerer.

	26-08-2002 04:00									#4
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It seemed like an urgent question.

Yeah, Egypt rocks. Best all around civ, I think, if you go into a game not knowing whether you'll be primarily a builder or a warmonger.

Hmmm, haven't played as Egypt in a while... I wonder why that would be...

	26-08-2002 04:55									#5
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Can they be upgrade to horsemen in 1.21?

	26-08-2002 05:19									#6
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what does it matter? change the upgrade paths yourselves if it bothers you that much

	26-08-2002 07:01									#7
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UUs aside, this is what I did ('...' means continue with normal path)

Warrior > Swordsman > Rilfeman...
Archer > Longbowman > Rifleman...
Chariot > Horsman > Knight > Cavalry > Tank...
Frigate > Ironclad > Destroyer


This helps me out a lot in the late game, nothing worse then charging in with Modern Armors blazing only to find 12 swordsman protecting the captial.

	26-08-2002 09:15									#8
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OPD, I'm pretty sure that the upgrade paths were set as of or before 1.21, so WCs and Horsemen are concurrent, and both upgrade to Knights.

	26-08-2002 17:49									#9
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Haven't played much since the last patch. Does the upgrade from WC (my fave) to knights costs 80 (horses to knights) or 100 (WC to horses to knights)?

	26-08-2002 18:12									#10
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The WCis a good UU for early conquest if you have horsies and not too much unpassable terrain.

	26-08-2002 18:47									#11
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War Chariot to Knight costs 100 gold.

	26-08-2002 19:19									#12
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The War Chariot does not follow the normal upgrade path, but does eventually upgrade to knights.

The reason the WC does not upgrade to horsemen is to allow you a longer period of time where you can build WCs and take advantage of the units cost of 20 versus the horseman's 30 for very similar abilities.

You may need to build a few horsemen even while you continue to build WCs because the horsemen can cross mountains and jungle.

WCs make an outstanding early rush unit because you can whip them out under despotism for one pop oint whenever you have cities that only have 1 shield in the bin while having a population of 2 or more.

Understanding how the retreat ability effects surviveability and combat success is one of the skills that separates the players trapped at warlord level with swordsman from the players succeedind at emporer and deity levesl with WCs and horsemen.

Here is a link to a detail discussion of War Chariots including an entire campaign fought using then as the primary combat force:

War Chariots versus Japan from GOTM9