26-08-2002 18:05									#1
	Polish civilization mod - now available Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

Hello!!

We're happy to announce that you can download the polish civilization with new leaderheads.
Polish mod is here

	31-08-2002 15:56									#2
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The leaderheads look cool.
But what are the civilization qualities? I guess religious and something else and what is the unique unit?

	03-09-2002 03:45									#3
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Here's part of our readme file:

"OVERVIEW:

Noun: Poles
Adjective: Polish
Civilization Specific Abilities: Militaristic, Religious
Free Techs: Warrior Code, Ceremonial Burial
Leader: King Casimir the Great
Capital: Krakow
Favored Government: Republic
Shunned Government: Communism
Unique Unit: Hussar ADM 5-3-2, replaces Knight, requires Horses and Iron.
"

	04-09-2002 23:15									#4
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Thx I may try it sometime but I havent got much time right now.

	05-09-2002 00:04									#5
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The leaderhead looks GREAT!
I do not know much of Polish history, why are the Poles religious and militaristic?

BTW: The images load very slow from your Polish server.

	05-09-2002 00:52									#6
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Religious because Poles were always connected with catholic church.
Militaristic - well we weren't independent all time, so we had to fight for our freedom.
That's in brief

	07-09-2002 09:32									#7
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quote: Originally posted by Piernik Religious because Poles were always connected with catholic church.

Except for a brief period where they were Unitarian. The Society of Jesus (Jesuits) successfully brought them back into the Church though. I might be confused though.

	07-09-2002 23:10									#8
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quote: Originally posted by Piernik Militaristic - well we weren't independent all time, so we had to fight for our freedom.

Hm, I can't remember you did ever succeed...
But keep on fighting

	08-09-2002 01:08									#9
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You think that our fighting for freedom was foolish? or something like taht??

	15-09-2002 00:38									#10
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This rocks man!

Poland!

No their struggles were not futile, it takes some one worthy to make this mod to put Communisim as their shunned gov't too, my hat's off to you.

	15-09-2002 04:13									#11
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Looking nice!

Is the leaderhead animated?

And can I download it in a zip instead of an exe?

	15-09-2002 11:47									#12
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Thanks SkiLord fro worm words.

He is fully animated (he even blinks) but I'm afraid it not possible to download zip file, but you can always unpack exe file somewhere else - not in civ3 folder

	15-09-2002 12:38									#13
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Piernik, Thanks!
I'll give it a try.

PS

Poland is a fine nation.
During the Luftwaffe's bombing raids on my home town in WW2,
Polish battleships in our harbour put up anti aircraft fire at the German bombers.

For this I have always respected Poland!

	24-10-2002 15:30									#14
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Wow, looks great. Kudos guys. Szacunek!

I am going to try this tonight.

	24-10-2002 15:37									#15
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Wow, this looks magnificant.
Especially those leaderheads!

	26-10-2002 03:13									#16
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Who made those leaderheads? Those are the best user-created leaderheads I have ever seen! They are virtually Firaxis quality!

	26-10-2002 03:51									#17
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Wow thank you all I'm pleased

	27-10-2002 18:04									#18
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Thanks again and kudos, Piernik. I have been playing with the mod all the weekend, leading those hussars to victory - they are virtually unstoppable in the middle ages. I kicked some serious German and Russian butt

Btw, I love the leaderheads the way they are, but what would you think about a version 2.0 with industrial Casimir dressed in a cavalry uniform (mundur ułański) or so Pilsudski-style one? (He already has similar mustache) This could work well with Poles being militaristic

	27-10-2002 18:11									#19
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It's not so bad idea, but now I'm doing something else! I'm doing leaderheads for Alexander the Great scenario for PtW. more informations are on Creative Design Group forums - www.cdgroup.org

	05-11-2002 17:14									#20
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Piernik, leaderheads stopped showing for some reason

	05-11-2002 17:30									#21
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I've got them

	05-11-2002 17:32									#22
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Now they are fine

	13-11-2002 19:26									#23
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quote: Originally posted by Piernik Religious because Poles were always connected with catholic church. Militaristic - well we weren't independent all time, so we had to fight for our freedom. That's in brief

Hm.... I agree with religious, but shouldn't you get traits out of your golden age and not your oppressed age. I know the Baltics and Poland were the most important grain producing in Europe at the end of the Middle Ages. Maybe you could do something with that. (That is to say: with the current possibilities only Industruous comes into possibility, which is in fact not a representation of grain produce.)

	17-04-2004 01:43									#24
	Patch for C3C v1.22 is ready! Support Apolyton, buy Civilization 2

first of all i would like to thank you all for more than 16000 (yes, sixteen thousands) downloads of this mod in both static and full version.

now you can play as the Poles again. this time in C3C.
the patch, which can be retrieved here, contains a fully C3C v1.22 compatible BIQ file with an updated Civilopedia.


CHANGES:
-attributes are now Religious and Agricultural
-added 14 scientific leaders
-Poland replaces Bizantines*

these three changes were made as a results of votings that were made among polish-speaking users of civ.org.pl's forums.

* - there's a hard-coded limit of 31 civs in C3C and that's why we had to remove already existing one...


DOWNLOAD:
right here you can download the patch as well as the main mod.


ADDITIONAL INFO:
here you'll find a short description of the mod.


enjoy!

(CG)Mendax

	26-04-2004 07:30									#25
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Hmm. Casimir III (the Great) was called the Great because he was a nation builder and great negotiator, not some aggresive conqueror. I like him for that.

	09-05-2004 16:27									#26
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Mendax:
I have had Poland in my Rising Sun mod for a long time, just as agricultural and religious. However, you may note that the natural civ to replace is not the Byzantines who are unique in having the Scientific and Seafaring attributes. Instead, it should be the Celts who have the attributes that you have given to Poland.
I like the new leaderheads, though. In my mod I used the extra (Charles V) leaderhead that comes with C3C but is not used for any of the default civs, and made the Ulan the Polish UU ('Hussar' animation). The mod contains a lot of stuff, so I had to limit the download size.

	10-05-2004 00:12									#27
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PresidentMarcos: yes, i like Casimir for that, too. AFAIK, he was the only Polish ruler, who's been callef "Great".

pawel: as i wrote i didn't choose which civ to be replaced; when we were voting about it, nobody suggested Celts.
we decded that two civs are almost the same one (Ottomans and Bizantines) so we chosed Bizantines...

oh, and i'll try out your mod soon.

(CG)Mendax

	11-05-2004 18:05									#28
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Well, in the game actually the Ottomans are most similar to the Persians , but in my case I also needed the Byzantines for the three scenarios that come with the mod. Unfortunately, the scenarios don't include Poland, though. However, the fact that the mods are a little different is a good thing - otherwise they would just be the same! After looking at the civ.org.pl site, I tried to upoad it there, but failed.

I look forward to hearing your comments on the Rising Sun mod!