28-08-2002 19:14									#91
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quote: Originally posted by Dan Severn Yeah, their tanks weren't fast enough to reach many of the french before they gave up. And let us not forget their incredible showing during operation torh, although in that case it could be said they wanted the US to win. But secretly, they just wanted to surrender.

hi ,

they where the oly country to get a cease fire , ....

and had the right to run things the way they wanted , ....

its in some history books , .....

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	28-08-2002 19:16									#92
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quote: Originally posted by Oerdin You can also add the Mexican-American war (1846-1848) where the U.S. kicked the living sh*t out of Mexico and seized half of its territory. The Spanish-American War (1898) where the U.S. single handedly siezed all of Spain's over seas possessions and sunk two Spainish fleets in six months. We were also in WW1 late but U.S. man power and material proved decisive in the allied victory. That doesn't count more then three dozen invasions and "interventions" in Latin America, mini wars like the 1804 invasion of Libya, or various neo-colonial involvements in places like China, several pacific islands (including hawaii), and what not. Also Eisenhower first sent U.S. advisers to Vietnam in 1958 and the last U.S. combat troops left in 1974; That would be 16 years the U.S. stuck it out. South Vietnam fell in 1976 two years after the U.S. left. Also the U.S. won every single battle it ever fought against the North Vietnamese Army.

hi ,

all ground "army" personel was out by 1973 , the war ended in 1975 , ...

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	28-08-2002 20:38									#93
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as I said, americans never fought a real war. never on their soil and never with casualties on their terrain. the moment one of their cities is carpetbombed they will surrender 'cause they have proven that they cant take the heat.

Russia has a far longer and better tradition in space and with the money of the EU it can wipe out american "competition". it's just a matter if we can be bothered with green martians. apparently we can.

greek civilization is in its heights right now but noone notices cause everybody's watching britney spears.

and i can guarantee you that your britney spears civ will not be remembered after 2000 years when your civ is taken down after just a mere 300 bloddy filled years with no contribution to speak of when osama or someone else finally takes it down.

cheers

	28-08-2002 20:49									#94
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 the moment one of their cities is carpetbombed they will surrender 'cause they have proven that they cant take the heat.

You do realize that Washington has been pillaged and razed before.

	28-08-2002 20:51									#95
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that's nothing compared to WW2. and it was done by canadians FFS

	28-08-2002 21:13									#96
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Yeah, that's why American tenacity right after 9/11 was calling for "nuke the bastards" instead of looking at the situation calmly.

If we were ever to be invaded, just think of how many people holed up in Montana and in the South would be ready to pull out all their guns and say "See! I dern tol' ya we'd need this'n here guns some day!" And then march out and start fighting.

The only reason the war against terrorism has even lost ground is because Americans have heard about as much as they can stand... we bombed the Taliban back into the stone age (if they weren't already there) and so now we're, for the most part, sedated.

	28-08-2002 21:24									#97
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 as I said, americans never fought a real war. never on their soil and never with casualties on their terrain. the moment one of their cities is carpetbombed they will surrender 'cause they have proven that they cant take the heat.

Your usually not this stupid, what is this?

quote: Russia has a far longer and better tradition in space and with the money of the EU it can wipe out american "competition". it's just a matter if we can be bothered with green martians. apparently we can.

The only thing the EU knows about space is taking it up, and you know it.

quote: greek civilization is in its heights right now but noone notices cause everybody's watching britney spears.

Including you.

quote: and i can guarantee you that your britney spears civ will not be remembered after 2000 years when your civ is taken down after just a mere 300 bloddy filled years with no contribution to speak of when osama or someone else finally takes it down. cheers

Very bad form, insulting and pointless.
Explain yourself.

	28-08-2002 21:33									#98
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Britney Spears!?

She's almost exactly my age... I have no respect for her, nor like of her whatsoever. I was very upset when she was the Pepsi call-girl for a while (my favorite drink, but she damaged its rep!)

Anyway, I like red-heads better They generally actually have personality.

The only time I liked Spears is when she flipped off some reporters and actually acted her age in Mexico City (walking off the stage and having a diva... and immature moment.)

	28-08-2002 22:28									#99
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quote: The only war we lose was Vietnam and we stuck that out for 12 odd years.

imran, the US lost korea as well.

as far as i'm concerned, you should have exterminated stalinist north, crushed and nuked those damn maoist ******, and strung up kim il sung up on some frikkin' high flagpole, before rubbing salt into the japanese farmlands.

yep, you lost korea. damn "stalemate" is no victory.

	28-08-2002 22:35									#100
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quote: Originally posted by Oerdin The Eu doesn't even have a manned space craft and the Russians don't have a long range craft. Neither government has enough spare funds to create a new one.

ESA made an executive decision years ago that they would never pursue manned missions - Manned spaceflight is not cost effective, so ESA has chosen not to throw money at it. Doesn't mean Europe is not a leader in the field of spaceflight. Afterall ArianeSpace launches 50% of all commercial satellites.

Of course Americans have always had more money than sense. (Both a compliment and a troll )

	28-08-2002 22:47									#101
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Ask some of the civil war buffs about "No wars on US soil".

	28-08-2002 23:00									#102
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quote: Originally posted by Sagacious Dolphin Of course Americans have always had more money than sense. (Both a compliment and a troll )

Guilty as charged (in the compliment way )

quote: Originally posted by walruskkkch Ask some of the civil war buffs about "No wars on US soil".

Heh... though that wasn't another country invading us, that was our own stupidity biting us in the arse.

	28-08-2002 23:03									#103
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quote: Originally posted by FlameFlash Heh... though that wasn't another country invading us, that was our own stupidity biting us in the arse.

War of 1812 then.

	28-08-2002 23:13									#104
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quote: Now, would all of you who oppose attacking France change your tune if you could have as many French women as you could support as concubines?

Hey Ned, nice idea. Maybe that would convince one or two of them to go with me to Germany .

	29-08-2002 01:11									#105
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If we invaded now, it would be pretty funny when they get back from being en vacances next week...

oh wait, I'm now a French civil domestique. (quelque peu)

	29-08-2002 02:45									#106
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Sten

	29-08-2002 09:13									#107
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quote: Originally posted by David Floyd Except for that minor thing called the man on the moon...let's see, all the Mars probes, etc. - the Russians had an early lead, but that lead was erased and eclipsed pretty quickly

Oh really?
First satelite, first spaceman, first women in space, first moon probe, first Venus probe, first human in open space, first docking of two spaceships, first orbital station, the longest space flight, first sea launch, (soon we'll have an air launch), first space turist, etc.
Since the beggining of space exploration Soviets/Russians launched THREE times more rockets in space then USA (It says about perfomance of our ICBM a lot btw ). How exactly you erased and eclipsed pretty quickly our lead in space exploration? Without our aid the ISS wouldn't constructed. Bacause only we have an unique experience of long space flights and in construction of orbital stations. Our cosmonauts lived for years on Earth orbirt. The SU had dozen of orbital stations, while for you ISS is the first and you just starting to gain experience we gained long ago and you doing this with our help. You should be gratefull for our help instead of showing your arrogance again.

	29-08-2002 09:24									#108
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quote: Originally posted by Serb Without our aid the ISS wouldn't constructed.

You can not even afford to pay for your part of the ISS.

	29-08-2002 09:25									#109
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quote: Originally posted by BeBro Hehehhe, not US, but us - invading France is our business!

You German-types are too selfish. Others want a turn too y'know.
Only real question is whether the US congress would actually have time to declare war before the French surrender.

	29-08-2002 09:27									#110
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quote: Originally posted by ravagon Only real question is whether the US congress would actually have time to declare war before the French surrender.

It would make for an interesting race.

	29-08-2002 09:30									#111
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Just don't go to Dieppe, especially with the British.

	29-08-2002 09:30									#112
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc You can not even afford to pay for your part of the ISS.

Then where our cosmonauts live on ISS?

	29-08-2002 09:31									#113
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I bet their department of defense's recorded message in answering machine goes 'Sorry, we're too afraid to answer. In any case, we surrender right away. If you are with other business, please push 0'.

	29-08-2002 09:31									#114
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 that's nothing compared to WW2. and it was done by canadians FFS

Don't laugh too quick Greek boy. Never lost one yet. Can you say the same?

	29-08-2002 09:33									#115
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quote: Originally posted by Serb Then where our comsmonauts live on ISS?

NASA is a good host.

	29-08-2002 09:35									#116
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Are you trying to say that Russian cosmonauts live on American part of ISS?

	29-08-2002 09:37									#117
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No, I'm saying that NASA has shouldered most of your financial obligations for the ISS and your whoring yourself out to the Backstreet Boys, etc. to make up for the rest.

	29-08-2002 09:39									#118
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quote: Originally posted by Serb Oh really? First satelite, first spaceman, first women in space, first moon probe, first Venus probe, first human in open space, first docking of two spaceships, first orbital station, the longest space flight, first sea launch, (soon we'll have an air launch), first space turist, etc.

You just forgot to mention first sex in space.

	29-08-2002 09:41									#119
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two cosmonauts, and both gays? Woah.. what are the odds for that one!

	29-08-2002 09:44									#120
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quote: No, I'm saying that NASA has shouldered most of your financial obligations for the ISS and your whoring yourself out to the Backstreet Boys, etc. to make up for the rest.

Oh really?
Then why you where bothering with poor Russians? Why you needed us as part of this project if you knew that we are poor?

The only answer is that without us, without our technologies and our experience the ISS would'nt been constructed.
Leaders in space, my ass. Nothing can do without help of Ruskies