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quinns is offline quinns
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Oct 2000
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Post  Old Post 12-12-2000 21:42
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CTP Ratings (12-DEC-2000) Help yourself to an AD-FREE life

CTP PBEM RATINGS AND RANKINGS
(updated every Sunday at 23:00 Apolyton Time)
Please refer to the thread entitled CTP Ratings (21-DEC-2000) for the latest ratings.

[This message has been edited by quinns (edited December 23, 2000).]

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Ratings updated.

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Some information: under certain cirumstances I might take this table and post the renewed ratings, in case some new members or something else important happens. In this case, I will edit this post with the new ratings, but basically we'll try to stick to the weekly update system.
And, quinns, please even if you don't want to update the ratings (here I can understand you very well), calcualte them and email them to me. It would even be fair that I am the first one to know them. I think calculations don't take much time, do they? Updates can wait, really.
And if we make 10 rated turns at least 2 more times this year, the "Top 5" game will be starte in the very beggining of the January. However, this is a thing to happen a bit later, so let it go, for now.

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That is unfair

I'm just doing fine - and now I going from a 6th to an 8th.

THIS MEANS WAR!

Edit: Could be please get Lung's Fast to a ranked game!
Edit-edit: And Do some PBEM (SOW) and Midway
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Basically, we do now. Tomorrow I'll look at the Do some PBEM, and it to the rated. As for Lung's, and Midway, please post an offer there, I'll look within a couple of days.
Then I think I will have to update the ratings, as Quinns won't do this before Sunday, and I'd like the new rated players come there. OK, that's for my tomorrows' ToDo @ Apolyton list.

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Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha... Ho Ho Ho... Merry Christmas! Good one Birdman. Ha ha ha ho ho! UNFAIR!! ha ha ha.
You haven't done anything to deserve your rating position other than state that you've beaten Deity at least once... AHA HA HA... (I can't stop laughing...) and now your talking about being unfair to you because someone else claims the same thing and happens to be alphabetically higher!! HA HA HA HA HA. Good one... that's a good one.

Solver, the reason I make it weekly is because that is how often the tennis rating system updates (including the recalculations due to results). The process (including all professional tennis players score updates) takes about 2 hours to run and then post to the www.worldtennisratings.com site. I've included the PBEM system within the tennis system in order to save time. I think weekly is better anyway, that way players won't keep asking when their ratings will change. Now they will know exactly when -- 23:00 Apolyton Time on Sundays.

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I had already posted in the Fast Game's thread, but so far only TheBirdMan has replied, so I just sent an e-mail to the other players. They may be more likely to read that.

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In case new players come, I think it might be yet interesting for me to change the ratings immediately. However, as I have already said, I will only do that if really neccessary.

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In case new players come, I think it might be yet interesting for me to change the ratings immediately. However, as I have already said, I will only do that if really neccessary.

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That's the second time you've double posted Solver. I wonder if something is wrong with the bulletin board.

Well Solver, maybe your right. I had a feeling that members were going to be added by two to three each day. My estimate was too optimistic. I'll go ahead and ADD the new members when you say so (in CTP Ratings) on a daily basis. But I will continue to update the RESULTS and RECALCULATIONS only once a week, on Sunday. (I'm a bit confused on what you plan to "update", you can't update the "CTP Ratings" thread without my password.)

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Tired of ads?

As I posted on Do Some.... I'm happy for the rest of the people to be rated... but the starting positions were so varied, that I can't agree to be rated in this game
I'm not whinging, I'm still happy to play along for the ride

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Yes, I did double post - I didn't see it doing anything, and cliked the Submit Reply button for the second time. However, I have also seen triple posts, so it's no a tragedy.
Yes, calcualtions don't need to come on a daily basis, I agree, but I insist new members are updated - as you have agreed to it, it's very nice.
How can I update it? First of all, I can do my own post under yours' one, second I an just hack the system and get your password. Know it's difficult, but not impossible . Basically joking here, but beings serious, UBB systems aren't that secure.

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quinns is offline quinns
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Solver, you little hacker, you better STAY OUT OF MY POSTS!!

Really, I don't mind doing the posting. Just let me know via e-mail or this thread what you want changed. I'll do it within a day.

I'm glad you agreed to all rated games changing player ratings on ONLY THE ...9th TURNS. I think this will work out best.

quinns is offline quinns
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Modified to show player list of rated games.

St Jon is offline St Jon
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Is Lung's Fast 'Rated' or not? If so when will it's first Grading take place?

Have you decided to include DC? I do think that it is too old but it is not my decision.

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Hello St Jon,
It isn't my choice (or Solver's). The "Game Starter" should post to this thread (or e-mail me or Solver) to state: 1) the name of the game to be rated; 2) the names of the individuals within the game that wish to participate in the ratings within the game (which is voluntary to all players - rated or not); and 3) the current turn (ratings are always calculated on the ...9th turns). That's all there is to it. Once we get that, we'll make the game "rated".

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It's just that, as an example, you have Lung as a rated Player but not in any 'Rated' Games which seems rather strange.

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I agree with you Jon its kinda funny. But I think you could compare it to a professional tennis player not playing in any tournaments this year.

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But how come Slamp has an adjusted Rating when he is no Game to Rated in?

This makes no sense at all.

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Alright, alright... I explained this whole thing in some other thread but here I go again

Anybody can become rated by just stating that they have defeated the A/I at a certain level (e.g. Lung, slamp). That's their "initial" rating. They don't need to be in any rated games to get an initial rating.

Players gain and lose ratings points by 1) winning or losing at the ten turn mark; 2) being delinquent (-0.1 ratings points); and 3) by being inactive in the ratings for an entire month (-0.05 ratings points). Most of us got hit by this "inactive" adjustment on December 1, 2000 because there was no ratings calculated in November 2000.

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StJon, you better post to Lung's thread and email me when you agree, I just can't post to all of the thread here, man.

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quinns is offline quinns
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Ratings updated.

*** RATINGS NOTICE ***
MOBIUS Takes Over Number One Position!

Elrond is offline Elrond
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Dec 2000
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Got spare money?

As you see, I'm a newbie but would like to join a game. I also would like to participate the ranking. I have beaten the AI at King-Level but I'm playing on a macintosh. Is that compatible? Or do I have to go to the "Macintosh"-Forum and can't be rated?

Thanx

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All players in Lung's Fast Game have now agreed to be rated. They are in playing order Lung, Stavros, Paul, St. Jon and TheBirdMan. So now I suppose Lung has to remember to send out a save of every ..9th turn.

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MOBIUS!!!! You better watch you back! I'm coming after you!!!

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Lung's game is now rated, but wrong - he doesn't need to send out saves, saves will not be accepted. He needs to send a snapshot of the powergraph with explanations:
Green - Paul
Blue - Lung
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For us to know who is whitch, and to see the ratings. No saves here please.
Send to two addresses: quinns' and Solver's.

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quinns is offline quinns
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Solver, and all, I want to make this as simple as possible for them (it's a pain to e-mail pictures, sometimes). All that is really necessary is the "Power Graph Order" of the game showing the names of the "player handles" (not of the pseudo leader names or civilization names) -- (E.g. Love Conquers(59) - Mobius, Stavros, St Jon, Rick Elkins, Quinns, The True Demosthenes). If the "Game Starter" can post on this "CTP Ratings" thread, it would then be public knowledge. Any player, involved in the game, can contest it at that time. I know this goes against our initial idea of the "snapshot", but snapshots are kind of a pain to prepare (for some of us, anyway, including me).

BTW, Thanks Paul for the player list of Lung's Fast (which is now a rated game).

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Fly High is wanted as rated too (I'm the owner ). Solver/Quinns pls check who also want to be rated.

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Have all the players of Fly High agreed? If so, what is the player list and what turn are you on?

Max, we can't ask each thread if it wants to be rated. The game starters should contact this thread (like you did) if they want their game to be rated, and state: game name, player list (in turn order), and current turn. That would be the best way.

Quinns

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Originally posted by King Thor on 12-18-2000 08:56 AM
MOBIUS!!!! You better watch you back! I'm coming after you!!!


After being the operative word...

 
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