28-12-2000 17:33									#1
	Keygen's PBEM Series: Proposals & Ideas! Support Apolyton, buy Call to Power 2

Hi all,

I am thinking of starting a set of PBEM games of two main categories, Deathmatch & Standard, with some specific rules in mind just to keep the games to a high speed and alive until they finish.

Categories

Deathmatch: Games in small maps and mostly modified to accelerated start. Its purpose? But of cource to reduce the time a PBEM game lasts.
Standard: For gamers who like more diplomacy and fun and are willing to spend maybe more than a year for a game to come to an end.

Rules

Moderator: Every game should have at list one moderator who will not be permited to play on the specific game (two are recommended). His job will be to track the turn speed of the game and when a player haven't played his turn on a specific period which will be defined from the supervisor then he will open his turn and hit the END button or play it depending on the player's demand which will be determined on the begining of each game.
Supervisor: He will be the one who starts the game. His job will be to supervise the game and notify the appropriate player/s about anything that doesn't work right. Like when moderator "forget" to next turn a player or when a player "resigns" he will be responsible on finding a substitute, etc.

The supervisor will determine the rest of the rules for the game he starts.

Recommended rules:
Deathmatch: 4-6 players, Accelerated Start, 24-hour turn rate.
Standard: Regular or huge map, 4-6 players, Accelerated Start, 24-hour turn rate

If the mods are custom and not "ready" like Medieval then it is recommented not to modify any of the default game's files but only the files whithin senario's folder.

All of the players has to have patch 1.2 in order to play PBEM games.

The English version of the CTP is preferable as the localized versions (German, French, Spanish & Italian) generate localized messages to other players who do not know the specific language and have to guess what the message says (it won't be hard to an experienced player at list most of the time ).

These games should have some kind of ratings specifically for each one of them. Maybe Quinns and Solver could help us out. Also these games could be rated in the Ladders too.

If you guys like the idea and want to add some recommendations and ideas then I'd be happy to hear about it .

[This message has been edited by Keygen (edited December 28, 2000).]

	28-12-2000 18:06									#2
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A "clean go" from me.

Games should use the existing ladder I think.

	28-12-2000 18:50									#3
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Completely no objections, this seems fun. Of course, I like the games to be rated here, and these will be rated too, if the idea of series comes through.

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	29-12-2000 03:08									#4
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Cool! We've got two entrants for the upcoming Keygen's Series! Yes, they will be rated in the Ladders too if the most players want to.

	29-12-2000 03:30									#5
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Count me in I'm for gettin' rated!


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	29-12-2000 04:31									#6
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me too, i wanna get rated

fraeta

	29-12-2000 04:32									#7
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me too, i wanna get rated

fraeta

	29-12-2000 23:25									#8
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Count me in

I have to get a real rating some how

I mean I have to play a rated game to be a real entity.

It is the way I am

Happy New Year All!

Blackice

	31-12-2000 10:43									#9
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Any suggestions?

Damn man, I was hopping of some more responses here .

	31-12-2000 11:52									#10
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All games should have an e-mail group (like DC and Eagles at War).

As it works in practice: All post to the e-mail group, and some also on the forum. Result: It is rather easy to find, who had the turn when the games goes stuck.

	31-12-2000 19:50									#11
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Yes, this is a "must" feature.
I already had it in mind.
My suggestion on this is that every player should sent a supplementary email to the player where the turn was sent, to the next player, to the moderator and to the supervisor. The other players don't have to receive a notification email to avoid spamming .

	31-12-2000 20:00									#12
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BirdMan, the email lists aren't that good, as it has been proved. On the other hand, they aren't bad either.

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	31-12-2000 20:05									#13
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I disagree Solver.
There are some times (well, not many) that these emails really helps.

	31-12-2000 23:10									#14
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I was waiting for a notice that a game was forming. But if your just looking for who is interested for now, I am ready to sign up. I prefer a "deathmatch" type game to start, as I have my hands full with many "diplomacy" type games.

	01-01-2001 17:59									#15
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My point was that it's very rarely that these emails help. In the Eagles game, where we did the list, now people only seldomly give emails to it.

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	01-01-2001 18:41									#16
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From my experience there are many times that a player do not send the turn for a long time just because he didn't received it, ever. And when I ask why they didn't check the posts they come up with a lot of excuses, sorry man I didn't, why didn't you sent me an email, etc. If they had received an email on the first place they would had replyed with a negative one and the turn rate wouldn't dropped to zero. I think it's better to both post and email the turn sent. It's up to you whether you want an email notification or not but I recommend it.

OK Swissy, I surely let you know when I will start a deathmatch or if anyone is interested on starting a game with these rules. I owe you a defeat! .


[This message has been edited by Keygen (edited January 01, 2001).]

	01-01-2001 21:27									#17
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I'm in for a deathmatch too.

	02-01-2001 04:49									#18
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Keygen, is this why you've abandoned the great Lungmatch tournament??

The tournament is still viable, and well advanced, but the group you were in is as good as dead. You said at the time that you were in too many games, so i was waiting for DMM 1.1.2 to finish before harrassing you to play your re-match. Of course, DMM 1.1.2 is the slowest game on earth, so i hadn't asked you yet. So, do you want to play the re-match, or do you want to quit like a girl?

The Lungmatch tournament is progressing very slowly at the moment, but i intend to get it moving quickly again, as it is advanced and has a lot of life left in it. For the record, the progress is as follows;-

Group 1 - midway through round 2
Group 2 - finished round 1, but waiting start of round 2
Group 3 - finishing round 1
Group 4 - finished round 1, waiting to start round 2

After round 2, we're straight into the semi-finals, with the top three challenging for the final.

So if you want to start a new tournament, go right ahead, but i bet Lungmatch finishes before yours

BTW, anyone want to come in as a replacement for the vacant spots? It's 3 players on a small map, with 3 settlers and some gold.

	02-01-2001 05:09									#19
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You are in BirdMan!

Swissy beat me in the Lung's Deathmatch 2 and Swissy will be one of my opponents on the upcomming Keygen's Arena (A deathmatch). I have beaten Jon twise in Deathmatch Modern Series (the third oponent in Lung's Deathmatch 2) and I have beaten you too .
So stop challenging me by calling me a girl .
I prefer to play with 4-6 players more than only with 3. Maybe you could join the upcomming deathmatch too .

	05-01-2001 15:28									#20
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Any other idea!
At the end of this week I will start a new PBEM relied on these rules. A PBEM for youngbloods.
In the two next weeks I will start another two PBEM with the oldest PBEM gamers and with the best players.
So post here any other idea if interested regarding the rules otherwise it will be difficult to change them when these games start.