29-08-2002 16:52									#1
	Does anyone have saves before 2950BC? Avatar Enlargement: We've got the solution

At the start of the game there was quite some discussion whether to provide a save or not. Fortunately it was decided to post it. The first save game posted dated 2950 BC.

I have been saving all the posted saves upto now but I do not have any saves before 2950 BC. Does someone still have any saves before this 2950 BC? I am particularly interested in the 4000 BC save.

	29-08-2002 17:43									#2
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no. I've got
2070, 1450, 1400, 1250, 1175, 1100, 1075, 1025, 950, 925, 875, 850 750, 690, 610, 571, 510, 430, 350, 290 and 210.

Stll a collection.

	29-08-2002 18:00									#3
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no i've got
2950, 2900, 2470, 2070, 1400, 1100, 1025, 925, 875, 850, 800, 570, 510, 430, 350, 290, 210.

seems I'm missing a few between 2070- 1400 and 800- 570

	29-08-2002 20:20									#4
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2950, 2900, 2850, 2800, 430, 350, 290.

(I could have sworn I had an earlier save...)

I don't even think the 4000 BC save exists, BTW. If you dig deep enough, you may find some pre-2950 saves, though.

	29-08-2002 20:34									#5
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You should probably ask Trip about 4000 bc.
Is he still around?
Even if he is you may have trouble finding him

	30-08-2002 02:08									#6
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Unfortunately Trip has left us. I hoped mrWhereitsat, UnOrthOdOx or Ninot have it but I have not yet seen them here so it may be lost.

	30-08-2002 02:10									#7
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...Let me go digging. I don't have it, but I may be able to find it. (don't ask...)

	30-08-2002 02:17									#8
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Thanks, I won't ask.

* Franses sits back, eagerly awaiting the result of UnOrthOdOx's digging action.

	30-08-2002 02:22									#9
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*watches Unorth put on rubber gloves*

uh oh

*runs*

	30-08-2002 02:26									#10
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While we are waiting. If anyone is interested I can post the save files I have (thought I had them all but I see above that I am missing a few after all, probably my holidays). The ones I have are:

2950, 2470, 2430, 2070,1910,1725,1000, 950,925,925a,690, 570,510,430, 350,290,210

	30-08-2002 02:26									#11
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Bad news. Prior to 2950, the standard was to distribute via E-mail the save, not post it. This was the VP's job IIRC. If someone can track down Space05s...he MAY have the first save laying around still.

We have full REPORTS with only a few 500 year gaps laying around still, but no further saves unless someone was on that list. I'll go track down that list..., but ministers at the time would be a fine place to start:

Uber
Timeline
Ninot
Tassadar
Spiffor
Epistax?

That's all I can remember from top of my head.

Reporters were required to recieve the save as well:
Reporters of the time:

Moral Hazard
Sirotnikov

I'll look more later. And get a final list of who was around at the time and on the list. They may have it sitting in their game still, who knows?

	30-08-2002 02:28									#12
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I can fill in alot of the holes in the above list of saves...

	30-08-2002 02:44									#13
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I was never a minister. Nice thought though

	30-08-2002 03:05									#14
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yo

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	30-08-2002 03:07									#15
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http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=53593

lots of stuff on turn 3300

	30-08-2002 03:08									#16
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another 3500

Entire economy visible

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	30-08-2002 03:21									#17
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Break out the E-mails guys. Here is the list of who POTENTIALLY has older saves. Chance are SOMEONE doesn't clean out their save files often...

quote: Originally posted by Trip This is the Email Address Book where people will list their addresses for contact and save-file distribution purposes. All the ministers are listed first, according to the order they are in the Current Administration thread. All other names follow in alphabetical order. If you want to be added, then post your address in this thread. Every few pages I'm going to ask Ming to clear out the addition requests... this isn't a place to add to your post count or discuss stuff. code: Name Position Address Trip President GuardianOfTime@hotmail.com Tassadar5000 Science Minister tassadar5000@yahoo.com Ninot Foreign Minister dninot@yahoo.ca UberKrux War Minister krux@r0x0rz.org Spiffor Trade Minister spiffor@yahoo.com civman2000 Finance Minister civman2000@hotmail.com Timeline Imp Expansion Timelinezplace@hotmail.com Eli Public Works shadowmn@netvision.net.il punkbass2000 City Planner punkbass_2000@yahoo.com 00civicSi b0bvila@hotmail.com Adc agustindc@yahoo.com.ar ADG a_grau@hotmail.com Alexnm alexandrenm@uol.com.br Apocalypse apoc@crius.net astrologix vmeierhans@bluewin.ch Boru_ie boru2000@eircom.net delsolsi seintegra@yahoo.com Deity Montezuma tank_1@email.com elcapjtk elcapjtk@adams.net Fatwreck Mr_Fatwreck@linuxmail.org Franses frans.middelkoop@bluejarf.nl GodKing Godking@prodigy.net hetairoi22 andreas@dk2net.dk Il Duce ryan_gilman@operamail.com James Adams adamsj@tauntons.ac.uk jdd2007 jdd2007@yahoo.com johncmcleod johncmcleod@yahoo.com Jonny jonny11788@aol.com joost1110 joostbekken@hotmail.com JSeeds GlacialRemains@hotmail.com kring kring1bc@mailpuppy.com MadHatter13x maadhatta@hotmail.com MrWhereItsAt mrwhereitsat@hotmail.com Nikolai nikolai18@hotmail.com Nym Nym@wanadoo.fr OPD dwyerowen@hotmail.com PapaLenin illuminati90@hotmail.com Proserpine hans-werner.stellert@de.opel.com SamRiv SamuelRiv@yahoo.com Sirotnikov Editor, Times al_si@netvision.net.il skywalker A. Editor, Apol. skywalker2588@aol.com Sn00py icedan@clear.net.nz Space05us k_nosbisch@hotmail.com SwitchMoO switch@mooclan.com ThePlagueRat ungelidd@yahoo.no Togas tom_ogas@yahoo.com Turambar turambar6@lycos.co.uk Vlad Antlerkov rcbberry@attbi.com Will 5001 wbreame@hotmail.com

	30-08-2002 05:08									#18
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* MrWhereItsAt is curiously rubbing his posterior as if it had recently experienced some violent pain

Guess who volunteered to dish out the save to everyone for Trip right near the start? Yes, way back when I was just a sceptic about this game, wanting a little taste of power, I was just a messenger-WhereItsAt.

It doesn't help much, but here it is, a sparkling new copy of the 3950BC save.


And UnOrthO - you only had to ask. You didn't need to do all THAT!

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	30-08-2002 05:19									#19
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3500, 2950, 1725, 1475, 1400, 750, 750b, 730, 690.

I keep putting off downloading the save.

	30-08-2002 05:33									#20
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skywalker - will AOL let you post the 3500 BC save?

	30-08-2002 05:55									#21
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Yes. Here It Is

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	30-08-2002 05:56									#22
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MWIA - you changed it AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!

	30-08-2002 12:27									#23
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quote: Originally posted by MrWhereItsAt It doesn't help much, but here it is, a sparkling new copy of the 3950BC save

Thanks a lot. Also to UnOrthOdOx for all his work. Great guys.

	30-08-2002 17:57									#24
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Wow. Lots of work guys.