30-08-2002 15:02									#1
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	30-08-2002 15:32									#2
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The viking bloke looks like a Dwarf from LOTR

	30-08-2002 15:45									#3
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quote: Originally posted by TheStinger The viking bloke looks like a Dwarf from LOTR

actually I thought of something similar on my own:
Regarding the from of his head he must have some dwarfen relatives. Well actually I'm a little bit confused about this strange guy on the right in the 4th row. What’s this? A ninja? He looks like an arabic terrorist regarding this strange hood he wear. Whatever he may be he isn't a ninja definitely.

	30-08-2002 15:51									#4
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quote: Originally posted by Galvatron Whatever he may be he isn't a ninja definitely.

Why not? Maybe for a medieval japanese scenario ...
But he may be an arab assassin, too.

assassins:

quote: They were members of a secret Islamic order originating in the 11th century who believed it was a religious duty to harass and murder their enemies...

	30-08-2002 17:18									#5
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Yay, the Internet made it in! Also, we can look at the Arab UU...

I'm worried about the Radar towers a bit for MP.

	30-08-2002 17:58									#6
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that korean guy doesn't look too korean...

	30-08-2002 18:52									#7
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Hey!! That map with Carthage and part of Sicily on it actually looks reasonably accurate (the shot right above the weird ninja dude). Guess I can hold out hope for creating a decent ancient Rome scenario....

	30-08-2002 18:58									#8
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I thought Arab Assassin too. The only other time I have seen them in a Civ-related game was the Civ2 Expansion Pack (Crusades or Jihad scenario, forget which one).

Has anyone noticed that the watchtower/radartower/whatever it's called has a line of sight reaching 4 tiles for the mountain one and 2 tiles for the normal ground one? I assume that means that either planes have been scouting or you can get a really good view into what is going on with some strategic placement on mountains/hills.

And there's nothing I like more than to watch opposing Civs battle against each other in wars 'm not involved in!

	30-08-2002 20:29									#9
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Yeah, that does look like a good mediteranean map, I hadn't even noticed actually till you mentioned it Stuie. Perhaps Firaxis has made agood scenario themselves.

Also, what is the Internet monument supposed to be?

	30-08-2002 21:26									#10
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Looks like we have the default names, I guess for the new civ leaders. Interesting

	30-08-2002 21:36									#11
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I concerned about the Radar Tower too - because of a major inconsistancy.

According to the Civlopedia entry: "To construct a Radio Tower (I believe this is a typo - should be Radar Tower), move a worker to any land tile within your territory and select "build Radar Tower." This is all well and good. However, take a look at the second to last screen shot. I count 5 Radar Towers that are built outside of the player's borders! So Firaxis, how will these towers REALLY work?

	30-08-2002 22:23									#12
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And it consumes your worker too, that kinda blows, unless Im misunderstanding, but why would a worker be consumed into a radar tower?

I noticed another tower, look like a look-out tower for ancient times, whats that all about? only 2 tiles visible beyond yer culture border?

	30-08-2002 22:51									#13
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Yes, it is my impression that the Radar Tower gives the host civilization a offensive/defensive unit bonus for units within 2 tile radius of the tower.

The Look-out/Watch Tower pushes back the fog of war by a 2 tile radius of the tower.

I wonder if we'll be able to increase the Watch Tower's radius in the editor...IMO, the Watch Tower should have a 3 or 4 tile radius.

	30-08-2002 23:31									#14
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I seem to remember reading that the watch tower was more effective on hills and even more effective on mountains.

	31-08-2002 00:04									#15
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Too bad Infinite Railroad Sleaze is still part of the package...

Let's hope the group movement feature works as advertised.

	31-08-2002 00:24									#16
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No new Governments I guess

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Everything looks great to me. Ragnar Lodbrok as Viking leader is a surprising choice, but a good one. He was, of course, the greatest of the sea-kings, a Norwegian who conquered Denmark, Sweden, Paris, and died a'raidin' in Northumbria.

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I take it from the last screenshot that the Viking UU will be capable of anphibious assaults. Pretty big advantage to give to an early UU -- but maybe that's its only advantage.

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quote: Originally posted by ShredZ And it consumes your worker too, that kinda blows, unless Im misunderstanding, but why would a worker be consumed into a radar tower?

Probably because of the attack/defence advantage that it gives you. Firaxis most likely wanted to try and limit their use.

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The ninja guy might be for the Feudal Japan set mentioned.

The radar tower could be manned by your worker; sounds reasonable anyway. Also, the radar tower one looks like one of their mock up games from around E3.

	31-08-2002 03:14									#21
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Firaxis, I need a picture of Hannibal for my leaders thread! We have pictures of everyone but him now.

Anyways, JohnM2433, I believe that in the IGN preview it was said that the Berserker is a Longbowman with upgraded defense, attack, plus amphibious.

And why is the Internet represented by a giant black monolith? I know it's hard to represent something like that with a solid building in the city view, but still.

	31-08-2002 03:16									#22
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The pictures and other Firaxis info released call it a Berserk.

Civ 3 Official Site has updated their screenshots and preview page, Finally.

	31-08-2002 04:53									#23
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quote: Originally posted by JohnM2433 I take it from the last screenshot that the Viking UU will be capable of anphibious assaults. Pretty big advantage to give to an early UU -- but maybe that's its only advantage.

I said in another thread that amphib assault that early in the game, with no railroads and fewer defenders per city is a huge ass advantage. I know what civ I'm playing when I take home PTW.

	31-08-2002 05:46									#24
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It's quite "refreshing" to see all those dirty barbarian faces as new leaders, joining the already 16 more "civilized"

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MM, Ghengis looks disproportionately barbarian.

Queen Isabella, however, aint looking too bad. I just wish we could see a little leg though...

	01-09-2002 01:22									#26
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No new governments and no new techs.

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If MP is stable and works correctly it still might be worth buying but I will have to get feed back from here at poly before I fork over any cash. Once burned is twice learned...

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[QUOTE] Originally posted by Carver
MM, Ghengis looks disproportionately barbarian.
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Yeah and I'm really "anxious" to see the design of his modern suit....as well as Brennus's modern "facelift".....

	01-09-2002 08:16									#29
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quote: Originally posted by Oerdin No new governments and no new techs.

Yeah, both of those would have been very welcomed improvements (for me at least). Im sure as soon as PTW comes out though there will be plenty of gov and tech mods. I just wished they had been included....

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quote: Originally posted by Carver Queen Isabella, however, aint looking too bad. I just wish we could see a little leg though...

Yup and I also like Jeanne d'Arc (of course before she gets to the modern area). I wish we could see more of both of them would give the game a whole new dimension: wohoo.