10-09-2002 08:34									#181
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I found a nice set of ebony armor that I liberated from one of the Great House's treasuries, so for the early part of the game (before I was able to upgrade to Daedric armor or better) the bulk of my net worth was in stolen goods. It gave me a good incentive not to get caught.

	10-09-2002 08:57									#182
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wow, I am sure that is better than Adamant

my armor rating is 73 (with a much weaker helmet and sheild)

what was yours at the time?

Jon Miller

	10-09-2002 09:14									#183
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I can't remember, but I'd be surprised if Adamant were better than Ebony. Good heavy armor is always better than good medium armor, and Ebony's the second-best heavy armor you can get (not counting unique armor pieces made of Dragonbone or whatever). I'm pretty sure that it was over a hundred, though.

	10-09-2002 09:20									#184
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cool

adamant is new, they added it in the most recent plugin

it is the best medioum armor now, I think

Jon Miller

	10-09-2002 09:24									#185
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Adamantium was in Daggerfall and Arena, it was the third best armor in Daggerfall (behind Ebony and Daedric) and second best in Arena (behind Ebony, there was no Daedric armor in Arena).

I'm glad they've finally let you enchant non-plate armor, it was always annoying in Arena to be stuck with crappy-ass leather or chain armor with no hope of ever enchanting it to something decent. (This was still the case in Daggerfall, but it wasn't as much of a problem since it was possible for mages to wear plate armor in Daggerfall, unlike in Arena.)

	10-09-2002 09:30									#186
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yah, it is less than ebony, and glass (glass is 50, ebony is 60, adamantium is 40)

Jon Miller

	10-09-2002 14:27									#187
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quote: There's a Legion quest getting me down a bit. It's a Buckmoth Quest (the Ald'Ruhn fort), the one where I have to find evidence in that potter's house that he's smuggling Dwemer artifacts. Trouble is, I've gone over the place checking every pot, chest and crate and his desk, and all I can find is redware and peach glass. Since Imsin won't take no for an answer, I assume he's hiding it somewhere exceptionally cunning. Where?

Sorry to keep asking, but it's really bugging me. Where's he stashing the stuff?

	10-09-2002 17:59									#188
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Jon - just a point to clarify for you. If you steal something, even if no-one spots you, the guards can identify it when they catch you for some other reason.

I've lost track of what I have and haven't stolen, so if I see myself about to get captured for a crime, I will drop everything on the ground, except the bare minimum of what I need - such as a lockpick, say. Needless to say, it takes some time - so I prefer to be a good boy. I've only actually had to do it twice. Once in Gnaar Mok because a cursory search failed to turn up the high-elf with the chapel bowl (I later found him, but ah well), and his shack was locked; the other time while rescuing Mehra Milo. I didn't kill any ordinators, and actually I didn't commit a crime in attacking them with a Jinksword (since they attacked me first) - but they did see me steal her cell key. So I had a small bounty when I reached Ebonheart by Divine Intervention.

Interestingly, if you manage to talk to a guard before they catch you automatically (in this case, I talked to an imperial legion soldier who didn't seem intent of arresting me), you get a discount of what appears to be 10% for turning yourself in.

	10-09-2002 18:32									#189
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quote: Originally posted by Chowlett Sorry to keep asking, but it's really bugging me. Where's he stashing the stuff?

Sorry, I haven't done any Legion quests. I hate their armor.

	11-09-2002 03:35									#190
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Nm, I found it. He was hiding a Dwemer Tube in full view on a table full of pots. Undertsandably, it was a little hard to spot.. Anyway, I've now got a whole lot of stuff to head north for, and by the time I head back round again, I expect the shrine will be finished (he's already had 13 days, and asked for a couple of weeks), and I should have Azura's star. I love it when a plan comes together

Last edited by Chowlett on 11-09-2002 at 03:42

	11-09-2002 04:15									#191
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Something that I learned the hard way with the shrine is that it won't be completed if you camp in view of it, waiting for it to be finished. I camped for about a month and a half in full view of the rock, and it never turned into a shrine. I camped in town for a day, came back to the rock, and voila, it was a shrine. So I reloaded to the spot where I'd saved before camping, quested for about two weeks, and voila, the rock was a shrine.

	11-09-2002 04:29									#192
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No worries there. I've got so much to do down the East coast after heading north that, unless I find something sufficiently heavy and valuable to recall to creeper, I won't see the bitter coast for a good few weeks. And that' somewhat unlikely, since a couple of raid on Daedric Shrines provided a few Dremora Lords' weapons, and since I use neither Axe nor want to take on another longsword with the shrine under imminent completion, I sold them to Creeper. For about 50000 each.

	11-09-2002 23:36									#193
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Yay! I went and killed the Daedra for Azura's quest, and the last one's a Golden Saint - so I trapped her and took her weaponry, recalled back to Caldera and sold it to creeper, then being in need of potions guilded back to balmora. While there I created my first exciting item - a ring of Constant Levitation, 8 points! I'm not entirely sure it was the best ring quality (120 enchantment points - let me know if you can get more as I have a save from before the enchanting). It only cost 83k gold as well...

I think the shrine might be finished now as well, I went over there the other day and he said "not now, soon" and I must've had 3 or 4 days since then.

Levelling now is going to become very tricky, incidentally. I've got long-blade which, naturally, was my fastest advancing skill, up to 100. Looks like serious magic training now. At least block and armour will still increase from combat.

	12-09-2002 00:09									#194
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Hmmm, did you guys hear about the expansion pack yet?

I haven't been able to play much will law school and being near the girlfriend and all .

	12-09-2002 00:46									#195
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I'm wondering if there will be any extra goodies for the X-Box. It's capable, and there are hooks left in the game.

	12-09-2002 01:02									#196
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quote: Originally posted by Chowlett While there I created my first exciting item - a ring of Constant Levitation, 8 points! I'm not entirely sure it was the best ring quality (120 enchantment points - let me know if you can get more as I have a save from before the enchanting). It only cost 83k gold as well...

I'm pretty sure that 120 is the max enchantment points on a ring, since my own ring of Constant Levitation was 8 pts. It might be 240 enchantment points, though. If the ring was Exquisite, then it'll have the maximum enchantment points. If it was Expensive, then you can do one better.

	12-09-2002 03:35									#197
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I think it was exquisite. That's the one that looks mildly understated, yes? Just a thin band, side on - same as Sheogorath's Signet Ring.

	12-09-2002 03:48									#198
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there is expensive

than extravagant

than exquisite

Jon Miller

	12-09-2002 04:01									#199
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I got up to 100 longsword a while ago (I am level 22)

I currently still level fine sice what I mostly use is athletics, acrobatics, longsword, and speechcraft (with some use of spear, medium armor, heavy armor, blocking, merchantilism, and armorer)

Jon Miller

	12-09-2002 04:12									#200
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quote: Originally posted by Chowlett I think it was exquisite. That's the one that looks mildly understated, yes? Just a thin band, side on - same as Sheogorath's Signet Ring.

Yup, that's an exquisite one.

	12-09-2002 04:24									#201
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Excellent. Now time to head back to the Shrine, see if it's done. Then to find me a Wizard's Staff (I figured I was going up there anyway, so I declined to buy one).

Incidentally, I've forgotten who my source of Standard Restore Magika Potions is. I definitely had one, but I can't work out who it was anymore. Anyone think of one? I've tried all the west coast mage guilds, and most of the alchemists as far as I can tell.

	12-09-2002 05:01									#202
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Hmm, I dunno. I mostly bought Exclusive Restore Magicka (since my max magicka was at 350), and IIRC I bought them from the Mage's Guild at Wolverine Hall. I can't remember for sure, though, since I've mostly been drinking the home-brewed variety of late.

	12-09-2002 06:36									#203
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quote: Originally posted by Chowlett While there I created my first exciting item - a ring of Constant Levitation, 8 points! I'm not entirely sure it was the best ring quality (120 enchantment points - let me know if you can get more as I have a save from before the enchanting). It only cost 83k gold as well...

I remember my first time creating a constant-effect enchantment too. It also cost a pretty packet.
I guess I just had too many probs in combat coz mine was a restore health/restore magicka item - enabled my character to stand toe to toe with a dremora and slug it out. I was soo proud.

	12-09-2002 08:39									#204
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BTW

loinburger, it does not matter wether you go through the door or the roof

Jon Miller

	12-09-2002 11:47									#205
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Still love this game. Made an all magic character; been having lots of fun with THAT.

Put it at +50% difficulty too.. a bit hard at first for my low HP Sorcerer.

	12-09-2002 17:57									#206
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quote: Originally posted by ravagon I remember my first time creating a constant-effect enchantment too. It also cost a pretty packet. I guess I just had too many probs in combat coz mine was a restore health/restore magicka item - enabled my character to stand toe to toe with a dremora and slug it out. I was soo proud.

Now THAT is a genius idea. I just have to find someone selling restore Magika. I wouldn't even need constant effect, either.

There's a whole bunch of stuff I'm going to shove on rings if I ever get round to it. It doesn't all need to be Constant, either. But some Absorb Magika would be quite cool, and I do possess an Absorb spell (which I only have a 40% chance of casting). However, my favourite combination at the moment is Cauis' Ring and Shirt, and an Amulet of Shadows (or actually, I think I have an invis now). 80% chameleon, and a 20pt bonus to Sneak and Luck. Basically, I can sneak whenever I like!

	13-09-2002 06:41									#207
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quote: Originally posted by Chowlett Now THAT is a genius idea. I just have to find someone selling restore Magika. I wouldn't even need constant effect, either.

There isn't actually a restore magicka spell in the game proper. This one came from a plugin that created a spell called "fools recharge" IIRC.
It cost 20 to cast and restored 19 so was useless as the spell itself, but just fine for enchanting (as was intended).

	13-09-2002 11:53									#208
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I have heard tell of a constant effect restore Health Cloak available from an island/shipwreck? to the south of Seyda Neen -- not tried to get it (yet) so can't be certain...

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	13-09-2002 17:55									#209
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Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, Goldbrand....

	13-09-2002 22:23									#210
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You found the quest worth your time, eh?