05-09-2002 08:47									#61
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Sorry, this took so long, RL interference... blah blah

Here's an example of what the coordinate map presently will look like. Comments and suggestions please.

Attachment: coordinate plane.jpg
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	05-09-2002 08:54									#62
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The axis is currently on Apolytonia, with the y or second digit along the red bar counting out toward Greece. The x or first digit is along the blue bar and counting towards England. Termina and Rhiems are just on the -1 side of the y axis, with Chartres dead on it. Ubergorsk and Tyre are just on the +1 side of the x axis with Antioch on it.
Do you want to move the axis to -001,000 to align with the coast?
Do you want every tile number or just every other, every fifth, etc?

	05-09-2002 09:08									#63
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Excellent, caesar! And how much work...
A little suggestion: make the numbers 1 point smaller, and put those numbers between parentheses, like that: (-004, 002), to make it more clear. What do you think about?

	05-09-2002 09:15									#64
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Wow. Lots of numbers. I would recomend every other tile, but with the same shading like you have done for the axies.

I have no graphics software here at home, so by every other I ment something like this

xoxoxoxo
oxoxoxox
xoxoxoxo
oxoxoxox

not

ooxooox
xoooxoo
ooxooox
xoooxoo

if that makes sence. BTW, thanks for all the hard work.

	05-09-2002 09:26									#65
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so, something like all the x-axii and only the even y-axii? But not just the even numbers?

	05-09-2002 10:11									#66
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Hmmm... All numbers should be in the overlay. And maybe you could reinforce the grid too. I've suggested numbers a little smaller, with parentheses, because this. Remember, this is an auxiliary overlay, to localize easily any tile on the map. You need a clean map to see resources, roads, etc.
(This is only a sketch)

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	05-09-2002 11:04									#67
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Absolutely excellent. Great job.

I personnaly would accept figures much smaller.

This considerable achievement will become a reference as important in its field as the Code of laws.

	05-09-2002 11:30									#68
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Thanks, Davout. Caesar has working hard on this, and I agree, this will be very significant for the game, in many levels.

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	05-09-2002 11:35									#69
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Btw, Take a look in the caesar sign, is absolutely right! We are a Monarchy, now... So, I second my coleague Caesarqbear and acept the new name of our society: The Royal Apolitonyan Geographic Society!

	05-09-2002 12:03									#70
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Good job! But wouldn't it be better to use numbers and letters instead [ (aaa,000) , ... ] to avoid confusion between x- and y-directions ..?

	05-09-2002 19:40									#71
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Maybe we could use different colors for this. This kind of "ordered pairs" (I don't know how say that in English), I mean (x, y), is a standard in math.

	05-09-2002 21:45									#72
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Hmm, do you really need the numbers on every single square though? I would think it should be sufficient just to keep numbers along the axis.

	05-09-2002 21:53									#73
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quote: Originally posted by WhiteBandit ...I would think it should be sufficient just to keep numbers along the axis.

In a regular map, yes. What caesar is doing is an overlay, so you can have any kind of map with AND without it. For instance, the SMC could work with a tactical map without the overlay, to see where their troops are, and can think about the troops movements with the same tactical map, with the overlay. Two maps of any kind.
And, of course, a general one with only the axii. What you think about?

	05-09-2002 21:58									#74
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Oh, I got it! Nice!!!

Are you guys using Photoshop or Paintshop to do that? Just save it as a layer too so you can attach it to any sort of map I would assume right?

Well nice work then! Keep it up!

	05-09-2002 21:59									#75
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quote: Originally posted by WhiteBandit Oh, I got it! Nice!!! Are you guys using Photoshop or Paintshop to do that? Just save it as a layer too so you can attach it to any sort of map I would assume right?

Yep!

	05-09-2002 22:41									#76
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quote: Originally posted by OPD Would it be possible to get a map of our empire (excluding cherbourg if you like) showing he location of all of our cities with yellow dots and also all the US cities and the cities of Munich, Rheims and Chartes in other colours? If it's not too much trouble.

The map is on the site, the same link . It's the Empire Map.
If something in the map is wrong or is not what you want, let me know and I'll make the corrections.

quote: Originally posted by OPD Can you get uber isle onto the map aswell?

Uber Isle is on the map, but not yet in our Empire. Btw, I'm doing a map of Uber Isle, with grids.

The thumbnail:

	05-09-2002 22:45									#77
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Cheers Aro

I think this is the best map yet.
It's really great.

	05-09-2002 22:59									#78
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I almost forget: The Royal Apolytonian Geographic Society will sign the next maps. Great idea, Caesar.

	06-09-2002 03:10									#79
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ugh! I'm not going to be able to work on the coordinate map again today. Sorry. But a few things... I like the idea of letters for y, it will make a smaller label, but I'm a little concerned about confusion with counting in letters or ideas of -a. I was planning on coloring at least one of the axis numbers, but with letters that may be redundant. As Aro said the plan is to make this coordinate overlay as flexible as we can. My plan now is to have labels on every tile, every even tile and every 10th tile. I'll work in axii (what is the real plural?) only too. Keep the suggestions coming, and again sorry for the delay...

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	06-09-2002 03:13									#80
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thankfully Aro is single-handedly turning the Royal Apolytonian Geographic Society (RAGS) into riches!




sorry, had to

	06-09-2002 03:25									#81
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quote: Originally posted by caesarqbear ugh! I'm not going to be able to work on the coordinate map again today. Sorry. But a few things... I like the idea of letters for y, it will make a smaller label, but I'm a little concerned about confusion with counting in letters or ideas of -a. I was planning on coloring at least one of the axis numbers, but with letters that my be redundant. As Aro said the plan is to make this coordinate overlay as flexible as we can. My plan now is to have labels on every tile, every even tile and every 10th tile. I'll work in axii (what is the real plural?) only too. Keep the suggestions coming, and again sorry for the delay...

Agreed absolutely. In this way, you will have three or four overlays to use when necessary, depending on case. I agree too with your idea, about coloring one of the numbers in the pair. It's enough to make it easy to understand. And don't worry so much about time, what you are doing is definitive and deserves all time you will spend.

Edit: double joke...
Edit 2: put the things in the context...

	07-09-2002 04:58									#82
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ok, here it is so far... pardon the out of date map but that's unimportant. I have nto yet added a tinge of color to the numbers, but other than that this is how it will look...

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	07-09-2002 05:05									#83
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An asterisk (*) is used for nil on the lettered axis. Tiles on the axis can simply be referred to by one of the pair. So Chartes would be I and Antioch simply 22, while Apolyton can be known as "The Official Center of the Universe", or TOCU for short...
In plain text tile designations can be written as -2G or 6-B for simplicity.
Any last comments, suggestionsor questions?

	07-09-2002 06:54									#84
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Fantastic job, it’s really impressive! Can you imagine how useful this will be?
As soon you have it done, send me by e-mail, with the map (each layer as a file, etc).
Hmm... Actually, you will have to post a psd file, in your site, because we will need the transparency. Is possible make a gif with transparency in a thing of this size?

We’ll be able to produce a coordinated map for every need.

Man, an admirable work. Congratulations.

	07-09-2002 06:58									#85
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How about The Official Focus of the Universe or TOFU for short, easy to pronounce just not very edible...........

	07-09-2002 07:06									#86
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TOFU is better... and tastes good, too.

	09-09-2002 00:32									#87
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Updated World Map 30 BC, at the same place .
A thumbnail:

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	09-09-2002 18:12									#88
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I'm having troubles with my monitor and probably I will be "out" today (I guess I have to buy another one...$$$!). Tomorrow morning I'll be back. I'm using a little monitor (15') as a backup, but is very difficult work with maps in this piece of crap.

	10-09-2002 04:46									#89
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There's a new tactical map posted in the same place , with the Apolytonian and Persian troops (only military). I'm sorry for the delay.
The thumbnail:

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	12-09-2002 02:09									#90
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The world map from the last save (70AD) is here , as usual.
Edit: You can find an updated map of Uber Isle at the same place (big).

The thumbnail:

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Last edited by Aro on 12-09-2002 at 02:28