24-11-2000 01:50									#1
	POLL 16: How long does a PBEM game take? Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

thanks to Solver for the help in the options


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	08-12-2000 02:16									#2
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Alright Mark. Not much change in quite a few days. I think it has played itself out.

	08-12-2000 21:07									#3
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Yeah. You know. If you think of it, there aren't too many of us playing in these games. Its just that those of us who ARE playing are playing in several ones.

I'd say there are about 20-25 of us. not more.

	09-12-2000 02:02									#4
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Hopefully not a dying race (no pbem in CTP II !)

But on the other hand - then we has no excuses to leave these games

	11-12-2000 07:21									#5
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Who cares?

	12-12-2000 18:35									#6
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What who cares? Cares about what you mean?

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	13-12-2000 02:15									#7
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I'm not being sarcastic. I mean, who cares how long a PBEM game takes. Is it going to make a difference to a game designer? If so, then I think this is important. If not.... who cares?

	14-12-2000 16:06									#8
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The time a PBEM game takes to be finished depends on the kind of PBEM. Deathmatches can take from 1 month to 3 or even more under certain circumstances. Regular PBEM games if not die early takes far more than Deathmatches. I personally have played to 3 Deathmatces that have ended within 1-3 months but regular PBEM seems to be endless. I think in a big map with 5-6 players it would take at list a year (I hope so ).

	14-12-2000 18:35									#9
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I'm in Monkey1 and Monkey2 which are both regular starts with originally 8 players. They started in october 1999 and are still running.

	14-12-2000 19:17									#10
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I personally think noone would mind the PBEM games to go a bit faster, say to finish them in some 4-5 months, but it doesn't happen, alas.

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	23-12-2000 10:53									#11
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ho, let me think about it.
i really would say: it takes some time
hehe !

	23-12-2000 00:28									#12
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I would add:

Only a few games will stop before CTP III is out WITH decent PBEM options. That would be about year 2003-2005.

When CTP II dosn't have this, why should we stop - try to finish - or (this is not nice) even think to buy CTP II?

SP is good, but it cannot be compared to MP or better PBEM.

	20-01-2001 02:13									#13
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Umm... It takes about an hour.

	21-01-2001 00:33									#14
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The PBEM games with CallToPower could take just as long time as we want - just look at Craptivisions statement on CTPII-general.

No PBEM, no more pathces than the half they already shipped - no nothing more.

Glad I didn't buy that game.
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	23-01-2001 10:58									#15
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Yes Birdman, I agree.

Kind of unbelievable, really, that Activision would just abandon it like that. I thought they had plenty of resources to support ALL their products (even the ones that aren't so popular). Any big company worth it's salt ALWAYS supports ALL the products it releases (at least for a couple of years, anyway). Activision pretty much said, "Ehhh, the sales weren't so good on that CtP2, and there's a lot of people complaining.... hmmm... let's just abandon it...". Unbelievable! I could see a "Mom and Pop" company doing that but not the multi-billion dollar "Activision"!
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	23-01-2001 00:30									#16
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Not even the "popular" MS$ do things like this.

And for their games - they are following the games up with patches (I remember many bugs in AOE, specially in MP online games - but they (most of them) were patched as soon as the bugs was confirmed).

	23-01-2001 01:51									#17
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Sorry Birdman... I don't understand. What is MS$? MicroSoft?

	23-01-2001 01:52									#18
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Common guys! CTP gained PBEM only after Patch 1.2 was realesed and that was some months after the game was realesed (4-5 months). CTP has realesed Patch 1.11. From the patch number you can easily predict that a major patch is about to be realesed, maybe 1.2 as in CTP. It will probably include PBEM as well. They knew that it was not so crusial to be included on the original realese. Probably thinking of improving it first, maybe include some new features like passwords or what ever.

CTP2 might not have the fealing of the first CTP but it's not bad... for a newer player. And if they improve it in some areas it might get even better than CTP. But I doubt they will manage to do so. So better waiting for CivIII for the big bang .

Craptivision, Crapavision hahaha, so funny!!!
I wonder who figured out this name? Maybe the Activisioners themselves

	23-01-2001 01:53									#19
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quote: Originally posted by quinns on 01-22-2001 03:51 PM Sorry Birdman... I don't understand. What is MS$? MicroSoft?

What else .

	23-01-2001 02:42									#20
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Keygen, read the statement be Activision in the CTP2-General forum. There isn't going to be another patch.

	24-01-2001 20:33									#21
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Yeah, you're right .
I just read it and post my opinion.
What a crap company!

	28-01-2001 20:44									#22
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	28-01-2001 21:07									#23
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CTP1: How long does a PBEM game take?

0-2 Months 1 / 3%
2-5 Months 5 / 16%
5-8 Months 3 / 10%
8-12 Months 1 / 3%
Over 12 months 20 / 66%

Total Votes: 30

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