03-09-2002 01:23									#31
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quote: Originally posted by Kamrat X I think I´ve already made up my mind on this one. In fact I did it like 5 years ago... When I´m in a relationship there is noone else but my g/f and I. If she starts fooling around with other guys she´s out! And I expect the same from her if I pulled some crap like that.

And as long as your g/f and you have agreed about that, it's (IMNSHO) ideal. Congratulations -- it inexorably happens to all of us eventually.

	03-09-2002 01:30									#32
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Nope, haven't cheated on any girl. Although I've flirted w/a couple when I was with someone......also, had a couple close-calls where I've coulda cheated (as well as some where she coulda) but didn't.

But then again, I haven't had a long term relationship for, what?, 4 years now? Lust is too damn strong for me to commit to anyone.

	03-09-2002 03:19									#33
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No, but I did sleep with a guy who had a girlfriend at the time (who didn't know about his...other side).

	03-09-2002 03:37									#34
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quote: Originally posted by Kamrat X Does it work for you? I´ve had a few, but they always seem to end in tears ( too possessive I guess )

It's been working for the last eight of our twelve years together.

Kepler, it's not so much about self-absorption as it is about being anti-possessive. As socialists, we refuse to own one another.

The fact that the relationship is open doesn't necessarily mean you fool around all the time. It just means that you can have other realtionships if one opens up to you.

	03-09-2002 03:44									#35
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quote: Originally posted by Ned I have never cheated on my wife. But, when I was single, I had an affairs with a few married woman.

Creep

I'd cut your balls off.

	03-09-2002 03:54									#36
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I wouldn't cheat on someone if I went out with them and I hope they wouldn't cheat on me either. I don't judge those who do very harshly though.

I was only the 'other guy' because it was my best friend and we were drunk - his relationship with his bf was deteriorating rapidly anyway and they'd both had other affairs.

	03-09-2002 03:58									#37
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Oh, you know what, I have to second Ned. I had a few affairs with married women when I was single. My rationalization was, if I could do this, obviously they shouldn't be married. They were really cute, but the sex wasn't really worth it.

	03-09-2002 06:16									#38
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Scumbag

I'm no angel but I made it a rule never to get involved with married women when I was single. It ain't right.

	03-09-2002 07:03									#39
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I agree

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	03-09-2002 07:06									#40
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I don't know if I'd help a married woman cheat.

	03-09-2002 07:08									#41
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I was agreeing with the "I am no angel" comment

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	03-09-2002 07:10									#42
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I know.

	03-09-2002 07:22									#43
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quote: I don't know if I'd help a married woman cheat.

I probably wouldn't - not out of any ethical considerations, but because I wouldn't respect the woman. If she's in a bad situation, leave. If she isn't, then why is she having an affair?
I couldn't respect someone who is too weak to properly end a relationship thats not working out.

	03-09-2002 07:33									#44
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I've helped...2 girls cheat on boyfriends. THe only thing is, I'm not sure I'd go as far as ruining a marriage...

	03-09-2002 07:39									#45
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It sounds so odd, "helping" girls cheat.

"Come on, Amy, you can do it! You can have sex with someone other than your boyfriend!"

Or maybe that's just me...

	03-09-2002 07:40									#46
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If they were not freinds I would not have a problem with breaking up a couple (boyfreind/girlfreind, not marriage)

I would not expect the person to keep dating their SO though

even if the SO was not a freind I would not break up a marriage

Jon Miller

	03-09-2002 07:46									#47
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All I'll say is you young tear aways need to consider that if you cheat with a married woman you threaten a man's home, his family, his financial security, basically all the bedrock of somebody's life.

Now even the most mild mannered of men can react extremely and decisively to such a threat. You could be taking your life in hands. I personally never thought it was worth it given all beautiful unattached women around.

I never found married women attractive either. My reasoning was if they were prepared to stab their husband in the back like that, they'd think nothing of screwing me over too. For example by disclosing the affair to their violent jealous hubby. Or getting pregnant. Or using me as an excuse to break up the marriage.

Unfortunately I know I'm wasting my breath because obviously some of you just think with your d*ck.

	03-09-2002 07:50									#48
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Yup.

	03-09-2002 08:07									#49
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quote: Originally posted by Alexander's Horse All I'll say is you young tear aways need to consider that if you cheat with a married woman you threaten a man's home, his family, his financial security, basically all the bedrock of somebody's life. Now even the most mild mannered of men can react extremely and decisively to such a threat. You could be taking your life in hands. I personally never thought it was worth it given all beautiful unattached women around. I never found married women attractive either. My reasoning was if they were prepared to stab their husband in the back like that, they'd think nothing of screwing me over too. For example by disclosing the affair to their violent jealous hubby. Or getting pregnant. Or using me as an excuse to break up the marriage. Unfortunately I know I'm wasting my breath because obviously some of you just think with your d*ck.

Wow, a well thoughtout and insightful post from AH!

This is because of that oversight thing, right?

Jon Miller

	03-09-2002 08:08									#50
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(I was refercing this thread http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=60771)

Jon Miller

	03-09-2002 08:09									#51
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You bastards. How dare you make me agree with Horsie, burn in hell the lot of you...

	03-09-2002 08:11									#52
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I know, I know

I am upset also

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	03-09-2002 08:14									#53
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wow-- I agree with AH

I don't and won't cheat. Its a simple matter really . . . I keep my word and I made Mrs Flubber a promise.

As for "helping" married folks cheat, that to me is almost as bad. First of all, I would not find a person attractive that could either be so deceptive or so cavalier with their commitments. . . . and I don't care how " hot" she was . . .. Second, I have been trying to live by the simple code that you don't fv*k ANYBODY over -- to me that includes fiddling with some guy's wife

	03-09-2002 08:56									#54
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It's a very strange day when so many of us agree with Horse. But I do.

I've not cheated.... but I have been cheated on and it's a crappy crappy feeling. You go through so many stages of denial and rage that it just leaves you emotionaly spent and furious at the parties envolved. Cheaters never win, they always get caught somehow.

	03-09-2002 11:21									#55
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We all have moments of weakness, but Chegitz, I'm sorry, I think you come off as someone who lives their life according to a pamphlet they read in a bus station. Yeah, get on board! Nothing more ridiculous than a person of weak will who uses an institution such as socialism to hide behind.
You might as well be a Star Trek fanatic and say you screw people's wives because that's the way they do it on Risa, for all the water it holds.

	03-09-2002 11:30									#56
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quote: Originally posted by SuperSneak We all have moments of weakness, but Chegitz, I'm sorry, I think you come off as someone who lives their life according to a pamphlet they read in a bus station. Yeah, get on board! Nothing more ridiculous than a person of weak will who uses an institution such as socialism to hide behind.

I was still a Republican when I was screwing other people's wives. You know, that's the Republican way, everything for me, f*** y'all. And that's the truth. Last affair I had with a married woman was 1988, which was two years before I became a communist.

So get off your high horse and stop making assumptions.

	03-09-2002 11:31									#57
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I'd help out a madame bovary if she reminded me of madame bovary.

I wouldn't cheat though… that of course being purely hypothetical.

	03-09-2002 11:34									#58
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CG: You certainly seemed to be making a connection to your current lifestyle and your ADULTERY in that post.
It really doesn't matter which you were, as you are now using being a Republican as your excuse, apparently.
Bottom line, you screwed somebody's (plural) wife. That's not too cool.

	03-09-2002 11:38									#59
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And furthermore, Sneak, where the hell do you get off acting like you're on some kind of moral highground? What, because you abide by ancient codes of slavery, you think you're somehow better than me? Screw you.

I'm obviously not proud of what I did. Hence the word "rationalization." Was that too big a word for you? Should I have said "lame excuse" to make it clearer for the educationally challenged?

	03-09-2002 11:51									#60
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Hey, genius, if you want to talk about education, you should check your dictionary before you spout off. The first definition of rationalize is "to make rational". The second is to do so erroneously. I took what you said at face value, being that it was appropriate because you honestly felt the relationship didn't merit your acknowledgment of a committment or the hurt of a possibly innocent third party.
I'm certainly not on any moral high ground, unless you count the fact that I haven't ****ed somebody else's wife.
Oh, I guess I am after all.
And you can think that marriage is "slavery" if you want. I don't see how that somehow justifies having sex with someone's wife. I could say that an "open relationship" is just two people who can't commit. But I don't, because I actually believe it is a valid lifestyle choice. I didn't know that socialism was a cause that disavowed or disrespected other people's choices. I doubt that it is, in its true forms.
Who's on the moral highground? Most of the people I know entered into marriage mutually and evenly.
I can tell you this much...there is no slavery in my house.

Last edited by SuperSneak on 03-09-2002 at 11:58