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I think you folks are missing the point. This woman just saw an opportunity to make white people kiss her arse and delighted in it. Thats all there was to it.
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Wraith
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Austin, Texas, USA
Aug 1999
time: 23:22
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--"Point out the illogicalness"
Butting in a bit, but your statement would have the logical conclusion of "Many parents do racism".
--"No I didn't. I insinuated that her motivation for using this word was stupidity."
Teaching vocabulary is now a stupid thing? Omoshiroi.
And no, it wasn't just him.
--"Its a government run school - that means the government creates the curriculum."
She's the English teacher, not the math teacher. Nothing wrong with her teaching vocabulary by that standard, na?
And, in case you missed it, First Amendment. Government can't say "don't teach these words to anyone". If they fire her for using niggardly, this is a Constitutional issue.
--"If you're tired of this "PC-crap" go up to Harlem and tell some folks on the street your joke."
Which is exactly how this sort of speech should be controlled.
To quote, somewhat out of context, a show I've been watching "Tell a bald man his head is usefull in the dark and you'll get punched in the face."
(Of course, the next line is "Santa says such cruel things", since they were talking about Rudolph, but the point fits.)
--"School boards do not go through each and every word that students must be taught"
The sad thing is that they don't do this for most textbooks, either...
Wraith
"'Educational' refers to the process, not the object. Although, come to think of it, some of my teachers could easily have been replaced by a cheeseburger."
-- Terry Pratchett
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Caligastia
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quote:
Originally posted by Carver
I said the government has every right to tell teachers what to teach. |
What is your point? The government has nothing to do with this. Nothing you have said so far convinces me that this teacher went against the cirriculum.
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Carver
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reprocessing plutonium, Yongbyon, NK
Jan 2002
time: 23:22
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quote:
Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
I can say the exact same to you and I will.
Your points make no sense. The government can tell the teacher what to teach BY CIRRICULUM. They can not forbid certain 'words' which are not curse words. I can imagine the Teachers' Unions having an utter fit if what you believed could happen actually would.
And might I add you stated what is consistant with the cirriculum, which indicates that the school board goes through each and every word, otherwise you can't say she went against the cirriculum, since she taught a vocabulary word.
Also as Wraith pointed out, she's a government employee, which means she is protected by the First Amendment, so sorry, they can't say she can't teach that word when a student brought it up in class.
Sorry, try again. |
Are you under the impression that the above is a logical sequence of thoughts? And you're still illiterate.
I never said that this teacher went against the curriculum. Wraith said that government run schools can't tell their teachers what to teach. You are foolishly trying to defend that statement. What I said was that the government (obviously) can tell techers at public schools what and what not to teach. I NEVER SAID ONE WORD ABOUT THIS TEACHER.
And, you don't have to be a government employee to be protected by the 1st admendment. This isn't a 1st admendment issue. The only issue I raised was the ability of the government to control its teachers while they are on the job - and that they have every right to do.
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Wraith
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Austin, Texas, USA
Aug 1999
time: 23:22
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--"Its not thought control, its curriculum control."
It is thought control, a very basic form. The schools already practice it quite widely.
With vocabulary it's particularly disturbing. Denying that people can be taught certain words is an attempt to deny people the ability to grasp the concepts connected to those words. My comment above about communism and fascism wasn't meant in jest.
They're already doing this (there was a First Amendment related thread recenty about how few US school kids understood it) to a large degree, and I don't like that at all. It's why I rarely pass up a chance to complain about US public schools. If they extend this to the utter basics, namely vocabulary, then the public school system will be impossible to save. Then we have to start worrying about them trying to excise words like that from, say, already published books. Just keep an eye on what's been happening around books like Huckleberry Finn.
Regardless of your (or anyone reading this thread) opinion of Ayn Rand, her essay "The Comprachicos" was dead on, and I would encourage you to read it.
Wraith
"School-days, I believe, are the unhappiest in the whole span of human existence. They are full of dull, unintelligible tasks, new and unpleasant ordinances, brutal violations of common sense and common decency. It doesn't take a reasonably bright boy long to discover that most of what is rammed into him is nonsense, and that no one really cares very much whether he learns it or not."
-- H. L. Mencken
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04-09-2002 01:07
) ? DO NOT PUT WORDS IN MY MOUTH. I said the government has every right to tell teachers what to teach. LEARN TO READ!
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