05-09-2002 01:31									#31
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For the first city, these are the first two build items
- grainery (to be purchased when possible - hopefully just before the first growth to minimize the $ amount)
- worker (as we should have a size 2 city when we start, just put 1 shield into and then purchase)

After that, it depends more on what we need. Defence, settlers, port, etc.

	05-09-2002 02:31									#32
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Wow. Awsome!

I say that we move up our building capacity on the main land and have several cities produce units and settlers for the Island -- it's risky, but we need to expand fast.

I'll leave the specific details to the experts, however.

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	05-09-2002 04:21									#33
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Uber Island looks great but I don't think we should divert resourses from the war in Persia. Uber Island should colinize its self.

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My post was before the idea of a war on Persia was brought to my attention as a serious issue.

Now I consider it a compromise -- we'll probably either do one or the other.

I'll probably post some of my thoughts on that issue in one of the threads shortly...

-- adaMada

	05-09-2002 11:59									#35
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Please discuss city placement here

	05-09-2002 12:27									#36
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I think you should propably try to take this island as soon as possible, before the other nations get to notice and settle it. This will only lead to a future 2-front war if shared with someone else.
So i would propose giving 2 more settlers out to the isle + 2 spearmen + 2 workers. After that, maybe a harbor rush in one city + urgent road building to keep people happy.
If all that is finished, the island could be left for itself without mainland support.

	05-09-2002 17:46									#37
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I have been totally out of the loop due to just going to school, but it seems to me that i'd place a city SW and NN of the condition. Placing one city in the middle of that is a waste, unless you are looking for a producer city.

	05-09-2002 21:38									#38
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quote: Originally posted by MrWhereItsAt Latest maps of UberIsle from our intrepid Explorers; Oh, this is of course from the latest turns (to 130 BC). For reference, these took me 4 hours.

hi ,

we should try to settle with the max of recources in our city range , .... (!)

at last , the gods are good for us , ....

get some bananas to the temples !

have a nice day

	05-09-2002 21:59									#39
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quote: Originally posted by MrWhereItsAt Yeah - we can't forget the Barb explostion in about 500 years (about 450 AD - Stupid Roman Empire).

The barb explosion happens when 2 civs advance to a new era, according to Firaxis. When is that likely to be?

	05-09-2002 22:03									#40
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That shouldn't be for a long time now as most civs have only just entered the medieval age.

	05-09-2002 23:01									#41
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Should we risk another galley and send reinforces to Uber Isle?

	06-09-2002 02:43									#42
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quote: Originally posted by Aro Should we risk another galley and send reinforces to Uber Isle?

hi ,

if you see what a kind of town we can get , YES , its worth it , .... its a high price , but imagine we can build all our towns with some many resources , .....

and the risk shall decline in the future , but we need to explore that place now , .... who knows what lays there , ...

go for it , ... the gods shall protect us

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	11-09-2002 21:50									#43
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Ideas for other Uber sites

(Maybe we can call the colony Whales or Wales? )

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	11-09-2002 22:00									#44
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IMHO the orange sites are much better.
It's a good thing you highlighted both sites in the image.

	11-09-2002 22:19									#45
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quote: Originally posted by Shiber IMHO the orange sites are much better. It's a good thing you highlighted both sites in the image.

The orange ones are my first choice as well, although the others are options depending on what is found in the uncharted areas.

EDIT:I'm codenaming them "Orange Peel" and "Green Banana." Why? Because I'm bored........

	11-09-2002 23:19									#46
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The biggest advantage of an expansionist player is Scouts. Its almost a pity that we couldn't have gotten one...

Otherwise, everything looks good. I just hope that we can keep this island to ourselves for the time being...

	11-09-2002 23:28									#47
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I want to suggest two more places, in order to complete the occupation of the island.
What do you think about?

	11-09-2002 23:33									#48
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quote: Originally posted by Aro I want to suggest two more places, in order to complete the occupation of the island. What do you think about?

I'm waiting on your updated map......................

	11-09-2002 23:35									#49
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The possible city places:

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	11-09-2002 23:36									#50
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quote: Originally posted by GhengisFarb I'm waiting on your updated map......................

I had problems posting the pic... Sorry!

	12-09-2002 00:46									#51
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I don't know. I have always been a fan of optimizing land use (meaning every land tile in our possesion is used). I would rather have over lapping city radius than unused land.

	12-09-2002 01:14									#52
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quote: Originally posted by donegeal I don't know. I have always been a fan of optimizing land use (meaning every land tile in our possesion is used). I would rather have over lapping city radius than unused land.

Me toos, except I don't mind wasting "trash" tiles like plains, mountains, desert and tundra.

I don't feel fuzzy losing grassland, hills, and especially river tiles.

Aro, do you have an Uber Map posted somewhere without your graphics on it? I 'd love to have that Uber one you just used with no graphics added.

I would move the West Aro down 1 and put two Aro's on the East Coast.

	12-09-2002 01:35									#53
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A clean map of Uber Isle:
Edit: You can find a jpg file, smaller but better in resolution here , is the post #4, IIRC, or a big one posted in my site .

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	12-09-2002 01:39									#54
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...And an exemple of total (almost ) occupation of the island.

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	12-09-2002 02:14									#55
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Hmmm... Well done!!!

I would say move Ghengis 1 sw one tile then mabe throw one in the middle of the thick part for good measure (we could keep that one small... no aquaduct)

	12-09-2002 02:25									#56
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Lookes really good, Aro. This doesn't depend on what is really in the interior. This way there will only be 4 spaces that will not be directly usable. Aro 4 can be moved SE if needed, but I really think that this will be the plan to work with.

E_T

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quote: Originally posted by donegeal Hmmm... Well done!!! I would say move Ghengis 1 sw one tile then mabe throw one in the middle of the thick part for good measure (we could keep that one small... no aquaduct)

We can't do this. It's sea.

	12-09-2002 02:59									#58
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	12-09-2002 03:00									#59
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Here's a map utilizing all of Uber's tiles and resources.

City B is the proposed Palace site. If tile 1 is an inland lake, could move city E se one tile.

Cities B and C are primarily space holders to prevent the AI from building on Uber.

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	12-09-2002 03:03									#60
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Here's an alternate method, giving the cities more growing space. Unfortunately it does not make use of 2 tiles (1 & 2) which could be used later as small fishing villages.

Once again, City B is the proposed Palace site.

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