10-09-2002 07:35									#121
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	10-09-2002 18:10									#122
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quote: Originally posted by Apocalypse There

Can the French read English? Maybe it should be in French..............

	10-09-2002 20:02									#123
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How about "S'assit ta derriere ici!"

	11-09-2002 04:44									#124
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I used Babelfish.

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	11-09-2002 04:49									#125
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quote: Originally posted by Apocalypse I used Babelfish.

So, in RL are you a doctor or a pharmacist?

	11-09-2002 04:49									#126
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Latest save - our troops are massed for attack on Sidon.

Several Elites, a couple of lost units, but overall an Archer massacre

A few trades available now we have a road with France/Greece and a Harbour.

Coast S of Uber Island extends somewhat, so I am sending the Galley there to investigate what some excitable poster called ANOTHER ISLAND!!!!! in the chat. it may not be, but who knows?

Full report later.

Thanks Aggie, GodKing, OPD, adaMada and Genghis for being there, it was really heldpful.

MrWIA.

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	11-09-2002 05:02									#127
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quote: Originally posted by GhengisFarb So, in RL are you a doctor or a pharmacist?

I may get a PhD.

	11-09-2002 09:37									#128
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Uber Isle is beatiful... We have fresh water there!
And is big. We need every tile of this place. Uber Isle deserves a Palace or FB!
We need to keep this secret, really. How much time we have before another civ find our island?

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	11-09-2002 09:52									#129
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We have 74 tiles of good land...
Btw, MrWIA, are you expecting another isle S to Uber Isle? There's some reason for that?
How many archers did we kill?

	11-09-2002 14:32									#130
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OK, report time! All the orders carried out are below. Only ones added or changed form those posted in the turns thread have been fully detailed. For those of us who can't be bothered looking through such a meaningless summary when the chat was obviously OK....

Persian Units killed: 16
Archers Killed by defenders 9
Archers Killed by attackers 5
Warriors Killed 1
Spearmen 1

Units lost: 3
Lost Spearmen 1
Lost Pikemen 1
Lost Swordmen 1

Other points of note:

-Aztecs and Germany sign peace (10BC)
-Germans working the Iron tile they have (implications for Plan Lazy?) (10BC)
-Russians, Romans and Greeks all moving through French/American territory heading North - unknown destination?
-Greeks occasionally move past Chiquita (heading N), mainly Horsemen, the odd Hoplite
-Uber Island's coast fully explored, the coast continues offshore to the SW, maybe send empty Galley to check this out?

30BC
PW Orders
Geofront W cancelled

City Planner
A1
A2
A3 - change to Library
A5
WC in BHQ change to Horse

Economy
Lux to 10%

SMC
1 E to Mt
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9

End

2 Archers attack Sword, both die, Sword damaged one but promoted to Vet then Elite!
(A5)Gaia builds Barracks, change to Horse
(A4)Rouge Temple, change to Settler, workers OK
Tass culture expands

10BC

City Planner
A1
A2 - not needed, lux to 10% solved problem last time
A3 - taxman reallocated to cleared Grass W of Love, Love worker moved to coast

PW
All three done

SMC
18(new) Elite sw kills archer in stack, loses 3 Hp, on 1hp
12(change) Horse into Geo
9
8 - joins wounded Elite Sword
all others done

FAM
Trade Dyes w France for all 27g and WM, get map of Gk Isle

Upgrade Warr in Gaia to Sword (33g left)
SLider back down, taxman in Tass

End

We lose an Sp in Geo and one goes down to 2Hp, they lose two archers
Babs want to talk - They want WM trade. No way. No possible trades otherwise
Aztecs and Germany sign peace
Greeks intruding into our territory.
I notice Germans working the Iron E of Hamburg - what does this mean for plan Lazy?

10ADp
PW
All done except Chartres workers take ine more turn to reach square N of Termina, Workers finished N of Gaia, build road

City Planner
A1 - taxman means no growth in Termina
A2 - Settler in Rouge started last turn

SMC
elite horse in geo attack se - NO hp loss
sword under pike attcak next - success, no HP loss
now move 1 pike to cover sword
one pike into geo
pike in uber i s of geo
warriors in geo to under pike
1/5 sword to uber
spear fortifies in geo
new sw in gaia goto uber
spear in termina goto tass
Horseman - send to Geo

End
2 Archers attack Geo - one dies, one kills teh Pikeman
Archers mass near Geo

30 AD

PW
all done

City Planner
A3
A4
A5
A6
A7 - not done - funds needed for war

SMC
move sw,and both pikes into geo
attack that warriro with elite horse
sword moves into geo
move warriors to uber when other warrior gets there upgrade
warrior in HII goto port rough and elite spear in port rouge goto HII
ok warrior in chiquita to gaia
Warrior in Uber upgrades (40g)
Horse in Geo fortifies
Reallocated taxman in Tass

End
2 Archers attacke Geo, both killed, some damage to both Pikemen, one becomes Elite
Russians move horsemen into Greek territory, Romans into French territory and Greeks into American territory

50 AD

PW
done

City Planner
A1
A2
A3
A4
A5 - still on Granary

SMC
attack spear with elite sword - we lose
LOL!!! attack with the other sw - We WIN, Sw loses two Hp and becomes Vet
move spear to cover sw, we should have 2sword in uber left
all forces near geofron move in and fortify
Others as posted

IE
Settler in Termina onto Galley
Galley at Uber Island finished exploring

End

2 Archers attack Geo, both die, 1 Hp damage to now Elite Pikeman
They want TM trade, no
BHQ builds Horse, Port Rouge's influence expands, Harbour in Tass
Tass changes to Pike, BHQ changes to Worker

70BC

PW
Chiquita Connected

SMC
the new horse from bhq to uber
sp in geo s on goto to uber to fortify there
sw in uber e, can't attack Archer N of Sidon as his turn ends?!?!?!
sp cover wounded sw goes back to uber and upgrades
Swd attacks Archer, wins with 1hp loss, finds Sp NE NE of Sidon
sw in geo attacks archer stack - 2Hp loss, becomes elite
send other able sword From Uber to protect one N of Sidon
SA to iron
Wounded Horse in Geo skips
Send Uber Island Galley to investigate S part - another island?
move full steength horse goto uber
Port Ruge Warrior fortifies
Other Orders as posted

EDIT: Small correction to number of Archers killed - I miscounted by one.

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	11-09-2002 18:33									#131
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MrWIA, i'll try to make the tactical map from the 70AD save as soon as I can, probably in this afternoo (in my time zone). 17 persian units killed!!! Wow! Only 3 lost...Congratulations to you and the ministers!

	11-09-2002 22:32									#132
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quote: Originally posted by MrWhereItsAt -Germans working the Iron tile they have (implications for Plan Lazy?) (10BC)

Yes, yes. My import contact in Berlin bribed Bismark's mistress, Bresta (who looks remarkably like a mysterious cartoon character named Jessica Rabbit) who convinced the German PW Minister "ReichBandit" to finish connecting their half.

Not sure what she did, but my info says ReichBandit was very PLEASED with the arrangment.......

	11-09-2002 23:41									#133
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Jessica Rabbit??? Wow! I want to bribe her, too...

Edit, OT: This is my post #500. Now I need to know how I get my customer avatar...

Edit: typos

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	11-09-2002 23:49									#134
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Aro, I suggest that you make a logo for the Royal Apolytonian Cartographic Society and use it as your avatar.

	11-09-2002 23:57									#135
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I'm trying this. In fact, I'm trying to put any avatar in a reasonable size...

Edit:
Now the size seems correct.

Edit 2: I have to work on logo...This avatar is provisory.

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	12-09-2002 05:06									#136
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Did I read that right?
Did we take a laborer and turn him into a taxman?
If we have the resourses availible to take a laborer out of use to make him a taxman, I'd say make him a Scientist and drop our research to 0% (thus raising our taxrate) and increasing revenue. The loss of the 10% Sci rate won't make any difference as we are already taking max time to research. All we need to research is one beaker per turn and we'll discover something in 40 turns.

Loose the Taxman, make him a Scientist and drop research. We loose nothing and gain Lyton!

	13-09-2002 02:47									#137
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One question -- in the chat, I thought someone said that the Aztecs declared peace with both Greece and Germany, but here it only says Germany. Am I remembering wrong (quite likely)?

-- adaMada

	13-09-2002 10:14									#138
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quote: Originally posted by donegeal Did I read that right? Did we take a laborer and turn him into a taxman? If we have the resourses availible to take a laborer out of use to make him a taxman, I'd say make him a Scientist and drop our research to 0% (thus raising our taxrate) and increasing revenue. The loss of the 10% Sci rate won't make any difference as we are already taking max time to research. All we need to research is one beaker per turn and we'll discover something in 40 turns. Loose the Taxman, make him a Scientist and drop research. We loose nothing and gain Lyton!

An intriguing idea there, donegeal. This will give us an extra 5lpt and wiht the taxman in Apolyton converted into a Scientist, there is still no disorder and the tech stays at the max rate! Thanks for that.

adaMada - a quick double check of the save shows that he Aztecs are in fact still at war with Greece. They only made peace with Germany.

Don't worry, this term is almost over.

	13-09-2002 15:21									#139
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quote: Originally posted by GhengisFarb Yes, yes. My import contact in Berlin bribed Bismark's mistress, Bresta (who looks remarkably like a mysterious cartoon character named Jessica Rabbit) who convinced the German PW Minister "ReichBandit" to finish connecting their half. Not sure what she did, but my info says ReichBandit was very PLEASED with the arrangment.......

Haha, well damn, how come the German Public Works minister has it so good? I need my own.. err.. mistress to influence my decisions!

That ReichBandit dude seems to have a good name too!

	15-09-2002 05:42									#140
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Well, well, well. The chat went well, with many victories, the destruction of Sidon and the taking of Tyre.

Here it is, 170AD, report to follow.

Thanks to adaMada, adaMada42, aggie, Aro, SprudL, Apocalypse, rangers85, MrWIA and MWIA for coming.



Oh, and we got a GL too.

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	15-09-2002 05:58									#141
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70AD - 170AD turnchat Report


Summary
-Cherbourg is being threatened by the Romans, Russians have a large presence of Horsemen in Krasnoyarsk too, at least 4
-Sidon was autorazed and a captured worker (no gold) is in the Mts E of Geofront building a road to Tyre
-Tyre was taken with 2 workers and 1 gold. It is currently size 2 and has 1 resister
-Athens built the Hanging Gardens in 90 AD
-The settler and WC have been transferred successfuly to Uber Island and are moving down the coast in a Galley - we need to know what their movements will be
-The other Galley (which survived!) is moving to Prt Rouge to pick up Settler here - what then?

Trades established
Rome: Dyes + 5 gpt + 8 for Ivory - they were polite, became cautious gradually
France: Horses for WM and all their gold (34g) - still furious
Greece: trade Dyes for WM and all their gold (27g) - now are polite!
Germany: Dyes for WM + 6lpt and 3 gold (Germans still furious)

Persian losses
-6 Archers
-6 Spearmen

Our Losses
-2 Swordmen (1 reg, 1 Vet)


WE GOT A GREAT LEADER! Say hello to my little friend Ramses!!!!!

Full boring Report

70AD
A1
A2
A3
A4
A5 no purchase, too costly
A6 no purhase, too costly
A7

C1 (20g spent)
C2

D1 Trade with Rome: Dyes + 5 gpt + 8 for Ivory - they are polite
D2 - France: Horses for WM and all their gold (34g) - still furious
D3: Greece: trade Dyes for WM and all their gold (27g) - now are polite!

End
Archer stack E of Ge moves S

90AD
Trade Dyes to Germany for WM + 6lpt and 3 gold (Germans still furious)
A1 - Macross OK
A2 - Chiquita ok

C1
C2
C3
C4
C5
C6
C7
C8
C10
C12
C14(new) - 1 pike from geo south
C15(new)Reg sword vs Archer - 1hp loss but VICTORY
C16(new)move 2 vet 1 north of sidon, and 1 vet w,n,n
C17(new) Wounded units in Geo and Uber fortify
C18)new) Sp S of Geo to Uber
C19 (new)Sword in Love E E
C20(new) Galley at Uber Island to AGC

End
End of 90 AD - Arhcer stack consolidates, Athens builds Hanging Gardens

110AD
A1(new) BHQ builds Worker, change to Pike
Seeburg has built WC, change to Courthouse
PW Completed

SMC

Assault on Sidon
Horse attacks Sidon - 2HP loss but SP KILLED
Horse 2 attacks Sidon - 2HP loss but SP KILLED - city TAKEN!!!!!
One Persian worker taken, Sidon killed, no gold
Reg Sword attacks SP - 2 HP loss, VICTORY
Pikeman, 2 vet Sword N
2/3 Sword S of Archer stack to join Pikeman stack
Captured Worker to Uber
Other movements
pikeman s of geo e to mountain
three swords 2elite and 1 vet tomountain sw of archer stack , also move sword from uber and also sword

2e of loveshack(plan to flush Persian archers of the mts)
pike in uber goto sword stack sw of archerstack

Pike to Seeburg, fortify
Warrior near Gaia to Gaia
WC from Seeburg to BHQ

End
Archer stack moves W off Mts, more Greek Horses go N, Romans retreating towards Krasnoyarsk
Del Monte builds Granary, changes to Courthouse
Persian Archer appears N, NW of Napoleton!

130AD
A2 - HII workers adjusted for max shields
PW finished

SMC
Attack on Archer stack
Elite Swords attack Archer stack - both lose 1HP, both VICTORIOUS
3 Vet Swords finish off Archer stack - all lose 1HP, the last attacker becomes Elite

Horse and Sword in Geo go 1 South
Pike from Geo moves towards Napoleton
C1
C2
Pike near Tyre fortifies
All swords and Pikes near Tyre fortify to await others
Reg Sword S of main Army joins army
Uber Pikeman fortifies in Uber
Pikeman with further Sword Army joins the resting Sword Army

Galleys all prepared for manoeuvre next turn.

End
Romans nearing Cherbourg (ours), Persian Archer near Nap moving W
Macross builds Temple, change to barracks, ort Rouge build Settler, change to barracks
Also Persian Sp and Archer on that Hill SW of Tyre that Aggie wanted to move the Sword army to

150AD
Expansion
Settler in Port Rouge stays put

CP
Tass has built WC, changes to Pike

SMC
Preparations...
move horse and sword under pikeman w oftyre along with assigned workers
move Sword army s of tyre ne
sword that last attack archer go to the sword army
fortify pikeman 1 se where he is so he can go and frotify at either geo or napolitan
Sword in Gaia fortifies for now
SP from Tass moves to Poly and scientist reallocated to work the fileds

End
Persian Archer moves next to Nap, Romans move next to Cherbourg, French Stack moving E past Macross, 4

Russian Horsemen move S to Krasnoyarsk, Persian Archer moves off hills W to threaten workers.

170AD
PW done


Uber Island
Galley manoeuvre completed, Galley with WC and Settler moves S along W coast

SMC
Elite Sword attacks Tyre, no Hp loss but no GL
Vet sword dies, sp takes 2hp damage, down to 1hp
Reg sword kills Sp with no HP loss, Takes Tyre, 2 workers and 1g. We keep the city - Tyre is pop 2

with 1 resister
Elite Horse attacks lone Archer 3 Hp lost...... RAMSES IS OURS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Vet sword S of Tyre attacks Sp to SW, no HP loss, VICTORY
Reg Sword attacks remaining SP, Sp loses 1 HP, we lose
other sa e to where current SA is
Galley moving to pick up Port Rouge settler
pike near napolitan to napolitan and fortifies

Temple started in Tyre

END

We all kick ass.

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	15-09-2002 06:11									#142
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The past hundred years have perhaps been one of the most successful in the history of Apolytonia. We have dealt the Persians a dramatic blow, defeating a total of twelve thousand of their troops with only two thousand losses to ourselves. Our troops have razed Sidon and added Tyre to our great empire. While fighting, Commander Ramses of the Eighteenth Elite Horse Battalion showed exceptional valor, distinguishing himself as one of the Great Leaders in our Civilization. He is being reassigned to Ubergorsk while our leaders ponder a more appropriate assignment for him. In the field of Foreign Affairs, we managed to secure an exclusive import agreement with Rome for their fine Ivory, while still making a profit by signing agreements regarding our dyes with other Civilizations.

Credit for these amazing events need to be spread throughout multiple people. First, all attendees deserve credit. Thanks to Aro, Rangers, Aggie, Apoc, Sprud, adaMada, adaMada42, MrWIA, MrWheresItAt, and MWIA for coming. (Tragically, MrWIA was forced to eject MrWheresItAt and MWIA forcibly from the chat when they became unruly). Without the contributions of this group, we would have accomplished little. Some of our citizen’s actions also stand about above others in the events of this past century. Credit goes to General Aggie, who has led our troops to victory against hordes of Persian forces. Credit goes to President MrWheresItAt, whose steady hand has guided our nation through these events with such skill that have led some to wonder if he just isn’t lucky. Credit goes to Shiber and E_T, who formulated the two plans that were combined by Acting Foreign Minister adaMada to produce the trading plan that we used so fruitfully. All things considered, this is a fitting tribute to the success of this Administration. May we see many future centuries pass as fruitfully.

-- adaMada --

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	15-09-2002 06:14									#143
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quote: Originally posted by MrWhereItsAt Germany: Dyes for WM + 6lpt and 3 gold (Germans still furious)

61 per turn????
Germany must be really afraid of us!

	15-09-2002 06:17									#144
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quote: Originally posted by GhengisFarb 61 per turn???? Germany must be really afraid of us!

6 lpt/gpt .

I got thrown by that in the chat a few times too .

(Now I've gone and quoted it here, so you can't even edit it out ).

-- adaMada

	15-09-2002 06:36									#145
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Lytons are okay for roleplay but HAVE NO PLACE in reports on the actual civ3 game IMHO as Civ3 uses gold (and that l always looks like a 1). It's been amusing so far, but there may come a point where it actually causes a mistake in gameplay that cannot be corrected.

	15-09-2002 06:40									#146
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I'm not really sure why... as long as everyone knows that lpt = gpt, lytons = gold, etc, it doesn't really matter. I personally leave it up to personal preference.

It did cause some confusion in this case, but in general, I think adding an extra 1 to a lpt deal will normally make you sit up and think about it . I mean, sixty one lpt? We at the foreign ministry aren't that good . (Even with Shiber writing plans for us ).

You could also ask that MWIA start putting a space between the number and the 'lpt' -- that would clear things up, in general.

-- adaMada

	15-09-2002 06:40									#147
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Oh, come on Ghengis, we all know it was just a little mistake. Hell, I make more little mistakes in a week here than everyone else put together.

We can cope with lpt. We should recognise it by now. The only reason I don't say "+2lpt and +43l" for example is that the "+43l" looks too much like a tunic size.

Whoops, there goes the roleplay again.

EDIT: OK, for sure in the next (and my LAST ) chat, I will put the space between the number and the "lpt".

	15-09-2002 06:49									#148
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quote: Originally posted by MrWhereItsAt EDIT: OK, for sure in the next (and my LAST ) chat, I will put the space between the number and the "lpt".

Come now, MWIA, you can always run again term after next... we'll take you back, even if you abandon us -- we like the way your computer rolls dice .

-- adaMada

	15-09-2002 06:50									#149
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The gpt isn't so bad put the lump amounts are unclear and it still gives a false impression when people are just skimming through the posts. A capital L would solve the problem as it doesn't look like a 1, just the lowercase l.

I'm not trying to come down on anyone I just know that I've misread many posts because of it and I would suspect someone else has also.

	15-09-2002 09:56									#150
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Don't feel too bad Ghengis, I had to look twice to make sure what I saw. In the future, we should have a space between gold amount and lpt, and it should be Lpt, instead. AR, I know, but mistakes happen...

BTW, that GL deserves a good:

EXCELLENT!