07-09-2002 09:27									#31
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Russia, Rome or even Babylon. Germany and Persia already have it. Both Russia and Rome can go through Greek territory. The French might even be brought in.

	07-09-2002 11:06									#32
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quote: Originally posted by Aro And this practically proves the wervdon point.

Not necessarily, the Chinese and Indians are more scientifically inclined than the Japanese. It's possible that the reason they haven't built wonders is because they are still building cities or are located in flood plains or grassland. I've played many games where a civ was more technologically advanced but had huge cities in floodplains and rivers with very little production.

	07-09-2002 18:24									#33
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The Greeks have played well, but their momentum shoudl slow soon. They've had their golden age, and their UU has lost its advantage (with pikemen on the scene, and knights soon to come). (Newcastle, I assume, will flip soon -- if not back to the English, then to the Germans.)
Rome looks potent, poised for domination on Abananaba Minor, but they don't seemt to be taking advantage of their formidable era advantages (golden age, and a fearfully effective UU) to consolidate territory down in their region. They should have taken out the Babs first. (Typically weird AI priorities.)
The Aztecs look way underbuilt to me, and they will always be hampered by the location of their capital. Looks like they, too, failed to fully exploit their UU/golden opportunity.
I still say the Germans look likely to be very dangerous.

	07-09-2002 18:27									#34
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quote: Originally posted by Robber Baron The Aztecs look way underbuilt to me, and they will always be hampered by the location of their capital. Looks like they, too, failed to fully exploit their UU/golden opportunity.

I'm wondering if the Aztecs have been working on Wonders............

	07-09-2002 21:22									#35
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The Aztecs or Germans becoming a continental power depends on if one "wins" their war with the other or if they come to a stalemate. Their combined territories would be pretty powerful, but as they are now, I think they'll always be 2nd fiddle to us and the greeks in the immediate region.

	08-09-2002 07:48									#36
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Its funny how they could defeat the other, if they were a super-power, but in order to become a super-power, they have to defeat the other. Not a very good example of a catch 22 I'm afraid. However, wervdon is right on the mark how either the Germans or Aztecs could pull ahead if they could knock their neighbor off.

	08-09-2002 10:05									#37
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Ghengis- by pressing the f7 (IIRC) key you can see who is trying to build what wonder where. It also lets you see what wonders are already built and what city they are in.

	08-09-2002 10:45									#38
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That only works for civilizations that you know about, if we haven't met them yet that doesn't work.

	08-09-2002 13:06									#39
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oohh.... Didn't know that. On the other hand, Ghengis was wondering about the Aztecs, whom we have met.

	08-09-2002 20:51									#40
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Oh, i see. Makes sense. Last I checked, they weren't making one, but I haven't checked in a while. BTW, who is building the Sistie Chapel now? THAT is a wonder I would like. Should we get a leader, I say we build that, and screw the FP. Doubling the value of Cathedrals is a must on Emperor.

	08-09-2002 20:58									#41
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quote: Originally posted by donegeal Ghengis- by pressing the f7 (IIRC) key you can see who is trying to build what wonder where. It also lets you see what wonders are already built and what city they are in.

Sure enough the Aztecs have been building THREE wonders, they finished the Lighthouse and are ??? somewhere on the Sun Tzu and the Hanging Gardens.

	09-09-2002 12:26									#42
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So - someone in the world had been to Kyoto! I say we find this guy and sail over to their lands.

How is the City Top-5 order calculated, anyway? Sometimes, I see fairly small cities in it.