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Which options should be included on the list? (Time out:0 days after 06-09-2002, 23:36)
Primary email address: YES
Primary email address: NO
Secondary email address:YES
Secondary email address: NO
Total games & Games in progress: YES
Total games & Games in progress: NO
Victories & Defeats: YES
Victories & Defeats: NO
Rated games: YES
Rated games: NO
AI level: YES
AI level: NO
Nationality: YES
Nationality: NO
Time Zone: YES
Time Zone: NO
Language version: YES
Language version: NO
Platform: YES
Platform: NO
Availability: YES
Availability: NO
Active: YES
Active: NO
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Keygen is offline Keygen
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PBEM Player List Options Poll



This is a poll to define what would be need or what would be useful from statistical point of view, to draw a PBEM player list available to all.
The purpose of the list is to gather useful information from all players into a single, easily accessed and readable location.

Below are the fields with explanations that will be included into the PBEM player list after your vote:

  • Primary email address: The main, most often used email address for receiving turns and emails.
  • Secondary email address: An alternative email address for receiving turns or emails in case the primary one fails.
  • Total games: The total amount of games finished or in progress.
  • Games in progress: The total amount of games in progress.
  • Victories: The total amount of games finished in victory.
  • Defeats: The total amount of games finished in defeat.
  • Rated games: The total amount of games rated.
  • AI level: The highest level ever beat the AI (e.g. Emperor, Deity, etc.).
  • Nationality: The nationality.
  • Time Zone: The time zone in Greenwich Time format (e.g. GMT + 02:00).
  • Language version: The language version of CtP used (e.g. German, French, etc.).
  • Platform: The platform used (e.g. Win, Mac, etc.).
  • Availability: The availability for new games. High for lot of games, medium for few and low for very few up to none.
  • Active: The activity of a player meaning whether someone is currently playing in any game or not. After three months of inactivity the entry is permanently deleted.

In the poll above, each field is represented twice. Once for including the field and once for excluding it. You only have to vote once for each field either by selecting the "Yes" or the "No" check box.

The fields total games and games in progress as well the fields victories and defeats respectively have been merged into two options instead of four for reasons of restrictions in the total amount of options in a poll.

If you have any recommendation for a new field not mentioned above or any comment at all please include it into your post.

Note that an Internet player list and a PBEM game list will follow shortly after.

Last edited by Keygen on 09-09-2002 at 06:37

Keygen is offline Keygen
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Regarding the poll only vote for what you really want and avoid selecting an option simply because it's funny or want to make an impression.

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My vote:

Primary email address: Yes
Secondary email address: Yes
Total games: Yes
Games in progress: Yes
Victories: Yes
Defeats: Yes
Rated games: Yes
AI level: Yes
Nationality: Yes
Time Zone: Yes
Language version: Yes
Platform: Yes
Availability: Yes
Active: Yes

FlameFlash is offline FlameFlash
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Primary email address: Obviously needed 10/10

Secondary email address: Only when one expects problems with known Primary should the next be added. 6/10

Total games: I can barely keep track of my own... would this be updated? And if so, how often. 7/10

Games in progress: Same as above. 7/10

Victories: Not needed very much unless we're going to incorporate with the PBEM rankings or something. 6/10

Defeats: same as above. 6/10

Rated games: Showing this is a must. 10/10

AI level: Not really needed, mainly because I don't want to be reminded of how much I suck, but different players are going to be at different levels, regardless, trying to rank them this way only means we don't need the victories/defeats. 3/10

Nationality: Maybe location instead... I don't see the need for this one. Unless we're talking preferred nationality in-game. 4/10

Time Zone: A must 11/10

Language version: A must 10/10

Platform: A must, so that the Mac users can get in touch with yours truly to get the proper conversion techniques. Go Mac! 9/10

Availability: good... 8/10

Active: also good... though if they disappear for a reason and say that they'll be back we shouldn't delete them. 8/10

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Secondary email address: You never know when a problem might arise with your email If you only have one email address or you have another one but wish not to include it then you don't have to

Total and in progress games: It depends. Moderators and players will have to help on this. I will post a submission thread after we're done with the poll where new additions will be posted there. It won't be hard to post there everytime you join, drop, win or lose. It's not something that happens everyday

Victories, defeats and nationalities: Some fields are purely statistics. I am not ashame of my defeats or nationality and certainly not for my victories Location is already under each one's user name

AI level: It might help in tournaments or team games to balance things better.

TheBirdMan is offline TheBirdMan
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++++ Primary email address
++ Secondary email address
+ Total games
+ Games in progress
Victories
Defeats
- Rated games
- AI level
+ Nationality
+ Time Zone
- Language version
++ Platform
++ Availability
++++ Active

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Primary email address: 10/10

Secondary email address: 10/10

Total games: 2/10

Games in progress: 4/10

Victories: 7/10

Defeats: 6/10

Rated games: 8/10

AI level: 1/10 (Most people here have beaten Deity, so this is really pointless)

Nationality: 7/10

Time Zone: 9/10

Language version: 8/10

Platform: 10/10

Availability: 10/10

Active: 10/10

FlameFlash is offline FlameFlash
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couldn't this be converted into a multi-choice poll of some kind?

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Guess Solver can.

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No. Converting single-choice to multi-choice is not implemented.

Now, I am very strongly against nationality. For the sake of it, call that Country, or Residence, or whatever, not Nationality...

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Yes to all

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Language version Shouldn't we know who's localized messages we read so we may ask him?

Total and in progress games This could aslo help players with less games been selected as replacements besides its obvious statistical purpose.

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quote:
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No. Converting single-choice to multi-choice is not implemented.


Why, is there a multi-choice option when creating polls?
Because that was my intention but didn't notice such a choice.

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Originally posted by Solver

Now, I am very strongly against nationality. For the sake of it, call that Country, or Residence, or whatever, not Nationality...


Country and nationality are identicall unless of cource someone is working or studing overseas but in that case people seem to be more bound with their nationality rather than the country of hospitality, at list most of the times. It defines the current nationality of a person and not previous nationalities, origin or ethnicity

Besides regardess whether this field is included or not in the player list nobody is obliged to fill it and that extends to all fields if someone feels strongly against it or have serious reasons not to complete it.

Location with the city and country mentioned could be a good substitute if that's what people wants

Your vote counts

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And please, if you're sure vote in the poll as well for an overall view!

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I almost forgot.

FlameFlash, could you define your yes and no selections?
Perhaps in the Max's or Redbull's better format (which defines amount of preference).

I suppose that the + and >5/10 are yes and the - and <5/10 are no

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*nods* I'll run up and edit it...

Also though, Solver, I was talking about just having a new thread with all of these options mentioned as a multi-choice... maybe even to the extent of Yes/no for each item as well.

but that would be up to Keygen as far as that goes... if he's comfortable with just reading responses here that's fine too...

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Avatar Enlargement: We've got the solution

I wanted to start a multi-choice poll but didn't find an option...

We can further discuss it here and then post a multi-choice poll if possible with the final fields.

I shall keep this thread for further discussion even after we're done anyway

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And thanks for updating your post

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Keygen - you might start a new thread, with a multi-choice poll (look for the option!), and I'll try to send all the posts from this thread to that thread... that is implemented at least, and might even work properly.

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It's worked in the past, Solver... (remembering a time when the same game thread was started by myself and somebody else and they were succesfully merged...)

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I remember, I did that with you and JBTW starting the same threads with 2 minute difference. I tried it out, and it works... hopefully it would here, too. Hell, if not, we'll do something else.

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Edit: Keygen's top post best describes the options and thus I am removing them from here... formerly part of the other poll thread...

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Solver,

I made up the poll in Keygen's abscence... I had to combine Victories/Defeats and Total Games/Games in Progress just because there are only 24 available slots maximum.

You can find it here

Edit: Removed link because it now redirects to the same thread we're in now...

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Hey FlameFlash, stuff merged already with new poll...

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Super! Looks good! And what's even better is the fact that I still got my e-mail update alert.

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Interesting stuff... well, nice to see it worked smoother than I expected . I merged new thread with the old one... if I chosed to merge old one with new one, I'd screw it up .

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Thanks both Solver and FlameFlash

Now it looks as I wanted to start it in the first place

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However I like the Max/Redbull style too so I can see how desirable or detestable is an option

So if you guys have the time and will post that too

So now guys you will have to re-vote (regarding the poll) exept FlameFlash and me of course

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Click in the boxes for yes, or to match the yes or no which are there? It's confusing

 
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