13-09-2002 02:25									#1
	Disorder with Shakespeare! Increase the size of your Attachments

I just had disorder in Shakespeare city!
Cardiff had Shakespeare theater. It had been built by the celts years before I conquered them. Centuries later, as my tanks pound into Wounded Knee, the Democratic government suddenly collapses. Disorder happens in many cities, including... Cardiff! One red face in Shakespeare city! It was during a revolution, but that is not supposed to happen, is it?
(playing ToT, deity, if that matters).
Anyone ever saw that?

	13-09-2002 11:44									#2
	Remove this text

Interesting - you wouldn't happen to have a screen shot of the city screen (in 'Happy' mode) would you?

SG[1]

	13-09-2002 14:24									#3
	Got spare money?

Unfortunately, I have no screenshot. I don't even have a save. I never use autosave, and when I realized what happened, I didn't think to save either. I saw"Cardiff", went there, put an Elvis, ended the turn, then realized I had just put an Elvis in Shakespeare city... It's a shame because I never saw that happen before. That may be because I usually build Shakespeare only in OCC and I don't let myself revolt in order to go to war.
Btw, I never understood how powerful Elvis were in Anarchy periods. They seem to be able to wipe tons of discontent even if there are only one or two of them.

	14-09-2002 02:33									#4
	Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations: Deluxe Edition

This has been reported before. I can't remember the circumstances, but it has happened more than once.

	14-09-2002 02:56									#5
	Browse Apolyton AD-FREE

I vaguely remember something about odd things happening with happiness due to the different ways unhappiness is resolved... Occasions where moving a unit out of the city would counterintuitively get a city out of a disorder.

I don't remember ever coming across any of this myself though.

	14-09-2002 14:54									#6
	Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

I don't know how to show images, so I attached it.

The picture actually explains it pretty well. If you take away all luxury, and all happiness improvements and wonders except shakespeare's, have a large civ, then you'll see that shake's doesn't take away unhappiness, but move all pops one step towards content:

red -> dark blue
black -> red

Attachment: shatea.bmp
This has been downloaded 19 time(s).

	15-09-2002 01:09									#7
	Enter the AD-FREE zone

Edit: Oh I see Funxus found the answer already *blush*

Don't know if this has something to do with this, but I've noticed in ToT when a city is on the edge of getting unhappy and a unit gets killed in the vicinity of the city suddenly an unhappy citizen appears in the next turn (causing it to go to disorder, because this is hardly recognized).

Maybe Cardiff increased unhappiness due to the riot factor by # of cities in your empire as a whole and then a unit got killed near Cardiff - maybe even before you conquered it but in the same turn - and so next turn an unhappy citizen appeared becaue of loosing this unit.

But even then, it would only be one unhappy citizen which isn't enough to cause disorder

Last edited by Gelvan on 15-09-2002 at 01:15

	20-09-2002 06:37									#8
	Avatar Enlargement: We've got the solution

What size was cardiff?
Did it have anything other than shakespear? Temples, Etc?

What was the LUX rate?

etc.

Very strange...

	20-09-2002 18:00									#9
	Increase Your PM Length

I think the last time it was reported it was when the person also had HG. Did you have it too? We all know the bugs with associated with HG and martial law. This may be just another aspect of it.

Rich

	20-09-2002 19:53									#10
	Help yourself to an AD-FREE life

I had HG. The luxury rate I don't remember. Lux must have been around 20%. The size of the city was quite big for that game, but not that much, maybe 18 or 19. I can't remember...

	22-09-2002 04:17									#11
	Inflate your Upload Space

Go to the saved game, If you have it and go into cheat and destroy the city with HG and see if you still have the disorder problem.

Rich