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GhengisFarb is offline GhengisFarb
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$Mini-Game Trading Session 6 Got spare money?

Turn 6 closes EXACTLY 72 hours from the post time of this message.

Use this thread for trade proposals only. So, NO DEBATES HERE (except relating to current session rules questions)

For rules, a directory of threads and debates see the thread Main thread and directory

Current Market Assessment:

Turn Number: 6
In Game year: 70 AD
"Market One": Apolyton, Termina, Tassagrad, BHQ, Port Rouge

Total population: 6+5+5+3+2=21

Labor Market
Apolyton Available Labor: 6
Termina Available Labor: 2
Tassagrad Available Labor: 5
BHQ Available Labor: 5
Port Rouge Available Labor: 3
(The Labor market is now done on a per city basis. Simply state in the following format, "Hire 1 Labor in Apolyton @ $26 (D:S 1/4 = $25)". To use Vassal labor simply state "Use 1 of my Vassals on my estate.")

Vassals for Auction:
1 French
(To bid for a vassal simply state the following proposed transaction: "I wish to bid $20 each for 2 French Vassals". Unless not enough bids are received, all vassals will be sold to the highest bidders. Transfer of ownership takes place at end of session. Newly acquired vassals have been fed for this session by the state, and may commence work during the next trading session.

Commodity Markets
Food demand: 21x2=42
Food supplied: 2+2+2+2+2= 10
D:S = 42/10 = $420


Shield Demand: 8+5+5+4+3=25
Shield Supply: 8+6+5+5+3=27
D:S = 25/27 = $93


NOTE BASE RATE FOR COMMERCE IS $50
So multiply D:S by 50% for current market price.

Commerce Demand: 21x4=84
Commerce Supplied: 3+2+1+1+1=8
D:S = 84/8 x.50= $525


Use the format provided in the rules to post your proposals.

Check the LATEST trade post for the most current default price (D:S). If you are suspicious of an error, check the previous post and make sure they added properly.


THIS SESSION USES THE FOLLOWING RULES:
Each noble has 1 base Labor representing common vassals. Vassals consume 1 food for every 2 vassals. Odd numbered vassals do not consume any extra food as the vassals simply have to make do with less food. (Examples: 1 vassal consumes no food, 2 vassals consume 1 food, 3 vassals consume 1 food, etc.)


The following Buildings are available for construction:

STOREHOUSE {Can be built on Noble's Estate OR in a city} (Costs 2 shields/labor) stores up to 20 commodities (including food). NOTE: you may store up to 10 nonfood items(shields/commerce) in addition to/instead of this 20 storage.

TAVERN {city only} (Costs 3 shields/labor) allows you to sell food at a 50% bonus. The number of food you may sell at that bonus is equal to the the city Pop of the city the workshop is located in. (Example: the building is located in Apolyton whose Pop is 4. The bonus applies to 4 units of the product.)

SHOPPE {city only} (Costs 3 shields/labor) allows you to sell commerce at a 50% bonus. The number of commerce you may sell at that bonus is equal to the the city Pop of the city the workshop is located in. (Example: the building is located in Apolyton whose Pop is 4. The bonus applies to 4 units of the product.)

WORKSHOP {city only} (Costs 4 shields/labor) allows you to sell shields at a 50% bonus. The number of shields you may sell at that bonus is equal to the the city Pop of the city the workshop is located in. (Example: the building is located in Apolyton whose Pop is 4. The bonus applies to 4 units of the product.)


To build a building in a city you must hire at least one labor from that city. Additional labor may be brought in from any noble's estate, but the first labor must be from the city or local authorities will not allow any construction on your building to take place.

The only building that will be "useable" the turn its built is Storehouse. All others technically use the turn to alter/sell products and should be in existence at the beginning of the turn to generate benefits.


BUILDING/CONSTRUCTION STATUS (From close of Session 5)
Epistax has built 2 of ? on a ? in Termina
Franses has built 4 of ? on a building in a city/estate.
GhengisFarb has a Tavern in Apolyton
GhengisFarb has a Tavern in BHQ
GhengisFarb has a Tavern in Tassagrad
GhengisFarb has a Storehouse on his Estate
notyoueither has built 2 of 3 on a Tavern in Apolyton






ADDITIONAL RULES
Trade proposals
Solution 1:
The solution is generalized and is:

The nobles specify the amount of the commodity they want to sell/buy and their minimum/maximum price. The price they receive will be equal to the calculated D:S unless D:S is lower/higher than the minimum price in which case the commodity is not sold/bought.

example:
Market Assesment 4:4=$100
OneGuy offers one commerce and sets a minimum price of $70
SecondGuy offers two commerce and sets a minimum price of $0
ThirdGuy offers one commerce and sets a minimum price of $40

The turn is closed. Final D:S=4:8=$50

Advantages:
1. Solves the problem of unacceptable price influencing as described by Epistax
2. Nobles only need to specify their deals once
3. System is fair to people that do not have the time to visit the forum at the end of the turn
4. D:S has to be calculated at the end of the turn only
6. Turn may close before the pre-specified time (as soon as all nobles have posted).

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Banana Pastures , Turn 4. Admin: Nimitiz Holdings: Tile 031, NW Banana HQ, 2/1/2 Buildings: None Stockpile: 0+0 food 0+0 shields 0+0 commerce Production: 2 food 1 shields 2 commerce Cash Change: $0 0 Selling 0 Buying Current Cash: $420 Debt: -$1500 (Interest @ turn 18) Selling: 2 Food @ min $40 each 2 Comm @ min $40 each 1 shield @ min $40 each Buying: Nothing New D/S: Food: 42/12 = $350 Shld: 25/28 = $89 Comm: 84/10 x.50 = $420

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Estate Jonny, Turn 6
Holdings: 003a, Apolyton SW (forest,road)
Administered By: Jonny
Buildings: None
Stockpile: 0 food, 0 shields, 0 commerce
Production This Turn: 1 food, 2 shields, 1 commerce
Current Cash: $580
Debt: -$780 (interest @ turn 18)

Transactions this Turn:

Sell 1 food to GenghisFarb @ closing D/S +$10
Sell 2 shields on the open market @ $25 minimum
Sell 1 commerce on the open market@ $25 minimum

New D/S:
Food: 42/12 = $350
Shield: 25/30 = $83
Commerce: 84/11 x.50 = $382

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Oh.... My...... Word.........

I opened the 70 AD save and our market's population has exploded. AND our per capita income jumped to 4 thanks to our new government.

Here's the deal, I have 3 Taverns that will allow me to sell 16 food and I only have 10. I need 6 more food to sell in my Taverns and will offer closing D/S PLUS $10 per food for the first 6 offered to me.

Do NOT sell on the market sell it to me for either closing D/S + $10 or if you want to lock in a price, I'll pay $93 each for the first six food sold to me regardless of what the D/S ends up being.

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I'm now selling my 1 food to GenghisFarb at the closing D/S + $10.

My original post has been updated to show this.

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Estate: The Jungle Farm[insert tradmark sign here]

Turn: 6

Holdings: 3 Jungle Tiles NW of Tassagrad

Administered By: jdd2007 now (thanks for your help GF!)

Buildings: None built, none planned

Stockpile: 0 food, 0 shields, 0 commerce

Production This Turn: 3 food, 0 shields, 3 commerce

Current Cash: $815

Debt: -$750 (Interest in 9 Turns)

Transactions this Turn:

Sell 3 food to GenghisFarb @ closing D/S +$10
Sell 3 commerce on the open market@ $25 minimum
Pay off $750 (all) debt

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Turn 6

I get at least 2 food. Selling 2 food to GF at DS +10.

The rest later.

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quote:
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I'm now selling my 1 food to GenghisFarb at the closing D/S + $10.

Accepted.

quote:
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Sell 3 food to GenghisFarb @ closing D/S +$10

Accepted.

quote:
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Selling 2 food to GF at DS +10.

Accepted.

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RECAP FOR LAST SESSION


quote:
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NOTE:ANYTHING NOT SOLD, INCLUDING FOOD IS STOCKPILED UNTIL NEXT TURN. I DIDN"T CALCULATE THE FINAL D/S LIKE FRANCES WANTED. HIS SYSTEM WOULD HAVE TAKEN ME SEVERAL HOURS LONGER THAN WHAT IT CURRENTLY TOOK AND IT TOOK ME OVER SIX HOURS TO COMPUTE THE NUMBERS FOR THE INITIAL MARKET ASSESSMENT.

ALSO, I DIDN"T COMPUTE ANY DEBT PAYMENTS.




Total Incomes
adaMada received $110 rent from GhengisFarb
..........Total Income for Turn =$110 (Cash $330, Debt $1200)

civman2000 received $175 rent from GhengisFarb
civman2000 paid $175 of debt
..........Total Income for Turn =$0 (Cash $0, Debt $300)

Darkness' Edge
..........Total Income for Turn =$0 (Cash $0, Debt $400)

Duddha sold 2 food at $55 Market price below his minimum price
Duddha sold 2 shields at $71
Duddha sold 1 commerce at $63
..........Total Income for Turn =$205 (Cash $645, Debt $920)

Epistax hired 1 labor @ $12
Epistax sold 2 food at $50
Epistax bought 1 shield at $72
Epistax sold 1 commerce at $63
..........Total Income for Turn = $79 (Cash $395, Debt $750)

Frances
..........Total Income for Turn =$0 (Cash $405, Debt $1100)

GhengisFarb sold 12 food at $50
(6 (2x3 taverns) @ 50% bonus = +$150)
GhengisFarb paid adaMada $110 rent
GhengisFarb paid civman2000 $175 rent
GhengisFarb paid jdd2007 $150 rent
GhengisFarb paid UnOrthOdOx $100 rent
..........Total Income for Turn =$215 (Cash=$1424, Debt=$1000)
TAVERN IN APOLYTON
TAVERN IN BHQ
TAVERN IN TASSAGRAD
STOREHOUSE ON ESTATE OF GHENGISFARB

jdd2007 received $150 rent from GhengisFarb
..........Total Income for Turn = $150 (Cash $815, Debt $750)

Jonny sold 1 food at $50
Jonny sold 2 shields at $71
Jonny sold 1 commerce at $63
..........Total Income for Turn = $255 (Cash $530, Debt $780)

Kloreep hired 1 labor @ $12
Kloreep sold 2 food @ 50
Kloreep sold 2 shields at $71
Kloreep sold 1 commerce at $63
..........Total Income for Turn =$293 (Cash $955, Debt $1400)

Kramerman
..........Total Income for Turn =$0 (Cash $545, Debt $1370)

Nimitz sold 2 food at $50
Nimitz sold 2 commerce at $63
..........Total Income for Turn =$226 (Cash $486, Debt $1500)

notyoueither sold 2 food at $50
notyoueither sold 2 commerce at $63
..........Total Income for Turn =$226 (Cash $525, Debt $1000)
2 of 3 completed on a Tavern In Apolyton


rendelnep
..........Total Income for Turn =$0 (Cash $0, Debt $1020)

Shiek
..........Total Income for Turn =$0 (Cash $152, Debt $400)

skywalker
..........Total Income for Turn =$0 (Cash $405, Debt $1000)

Spiffor sold 1 food at $50
Spiffor sold 2 shields at $71
Spiffor sold 1 commerce at $63
..........Total Income for Turn =$255 (Cash $240, Debt $775)

UnOrthOdOx received $100 rent from GhengisFarb
..........Total Income for Turn =$100 (Cash $305, Debt $225)


CONSTRUCTION STATUS
Epistax has finished a Tavern in Termina?
Franses has built 4 of ? on a building in a city/estate.
GhengisFarb has a Tavern in Apolyton
GhengisFarb has a Tavern in BHQ
GhengisFarb has a Tavern in Tassagrad
GhengisFarb has a Storehouse on his Estate
Kloreep has built 1 of 2 on Storehouse on his Estate
notyoueither has built 2 of 3 on a Tavern in Apolyton

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House Julian Turn 6. Holdings: "The Mustang Ranch" - 001, Apolyton N, Grass w Horse 2/0/2 Buildings: Tavern in Apolyton (2+1of3 complete) Shoppe in Apolyton (0+1of3 complete) Stkp: 0 food 0 shields 0 commerce Prod: 2 food 0 shields 2 commerce Cash: $525 Debt: -$1000 (Interest begins turn 16) Selling: 2 Food to GF @ DS+$10 2 Comm @ $1 minimum Buying: 2 Shld @ $100 max New D/S: Food: 42/12 = $350 Shld: 25+1/30 = $87 Comm: 84/14+2 x.5 = $263 Construction: Tavern in Apolyton 1 Shield +1 Vassal (Complete) Shoppe in Apolyton 1 Shield +1 Labourer Hire 1 labour from Apolyton @ $100 max (D:S 1/6 =$17)


Point out where I may have gone wrong.

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Turn #: 006
Holdings: 010 Termina NE (mined grass rd)
Stockpile: 2 food, 0 shields, 0 commerce
Cash: $645
Debt: -$920(10% interest, 13 turns remaining on grace period)
Buildings: None

Administered by: Duddha

Production this turn: 2 food, 1 shield, 1 commerce
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Proposed Deals:

Sell 4 of 4 food @ $100 each
Sell 1 of 1 commerce @ $100 each
Sell 1 of 1 shields @ $70 each

pay $440 off debt

New D/S:
Food: 42/12+4 = $300
Shld: 26/30+1 = $84
Comm: 84/16+1 x.5 = $247


Is that the right D/S, with the system always changing I never know exactly what is going on.

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Buying: 2 Shld @ $100 max New D/S: Food: 42/12 = $350 Shld: 25+1/30 = $87 Comm: 84/14+2 x.5 = $263 Construction: Tavern in Apolyton 1 Shield +1 Vassal (Complete) Shoppe in Apolyton 1 Shield +1 Labourer Hire 1 labour from Apolyton @ $100 max (D:S 1/6 =$17)

For each construction you have to use at least one local labor, so you'll have to use one to finish the Tavern.

To work on the shoppe you'll have to use one too, but may also use vassals after you've hired one worker.

If I was you I'd finish the tavern and use the vassal next turn to do the shoppe, if possible try to borrow a vassal from another player and complete it in one turn so you only have to hire local labor once.


quote:
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Is that the right D/S, with the system always changing I never know exactly what is going on.

You don't have to post the D/S anymore, just say the minimum/maximum price you'll accept/

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You mean each project must employ at least 1 local labour, and once you have 1 you can use as many vassals as you want?

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You mean each project must employ at least 1 local labour, and once you have 1 you can use as many vassals as you want?

Exactly.

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OK. Rethinking...

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House Ghengis Land Holdings in the Province of Mingapulco Turn #: 006 Holdings: House Ghengis: "Apolyfield" - 004 Apolyton NW (grass), "Jungleister" - 015 Termina NE3 (jungle), "Ghengis Mountain" - 022 Tassagrad NW (jungle) Leased from adaMada: 005 Apolyton NW10 (mined grass rd) Leased from civman2000: 008 Apolyton NE1 (mined grass rd) Leased from UnOrthOdOx: 013 Termina NE1 (jungle), 014 Termina NE2 (jungle) Leased from rendelnep: 011 Termina E (mined grass rd) Stockpile(s): GhengisFarb Estate: 0 food, 4 shields, 6 commerce adaMada Estate:.....0 food, 2 shields, 0 commerce civman2000 Estate:.0 food, 0 shields, 0 commerce rendelnep Estate:.....2 food, 5 shields, 5 commerce UnOrthOdOX Estate...0 food, 0 shields, 0 commerce TOTAL STOCKPILE..2 food, 11 shields, 11 commerce Cash: $1424 Debt: -$1000 (10% interest, 9 turns remaining on grace period) Buildings: STOREHOUSE ON ESTATE OF GHENGISFARB TAVERN IN TASSAGRAD TAVERN IN APOLYTON TAVERN IN BHQ Vassals: GhengisFarb Estate: 3 (1 local, 2 French) adaMada Estate:..... 1 (local) civman2000 Estate:.1 (local) rendelnep Estate:.....1 (local) UnOrthOdOX Estate...3 (1 local, 4 Persian) TOTAL VASSALS: 11 (5 local, 2 French, 4 Persian) Administered by: GhengisFarb, First Ghengis of House Ghengis Last turn's completed trades: GhengisFarb sold 12 food at $50 (6 (2x3 taverns) @ 50% bonus = +$150) GhengisFarb paid adaMada $110 rent GhengisFarb paid civman2000 $175 rent GhengisFarb paid jdd2007 $150 rent GhengisFarb paid UnOrthOdOx $100 rent ..........net Cash Flow =$215 (Cash=$1424, Debt=$1000) Production this turn: 11 food, 4 shields, 4 commerce --- Proposed Deals: Excess Vassals eat 3 food Buy 1 food from Jonny at D/S + $10 Buy 3 food from jdd2007 at D/S + $10 Buy 2 food from notyoueither at D/S + $10 Transferring excess product to GhengisFarb's Storehouse with the exception of 2 shields at adaMada's Estate. Sell 16 food @ a minimum price of $70 through Taverns Building Shoppe in Apolyton Hire 1 labor from Apolyton Use vassal of GhengisFarb Use Vassal of GhengisFarb Building Shoppe in Tassagrad Hire 1 labor from Tassagrad Use Vassal of GhengisFarb Use Vassal of rendelnep Building Shoppe in BHQ Hire 1 labor from BHQ Use vassal of adaMada Use vassal of civman2000 Pay adaMada $110 rent Pay civman2000 $175 rent Pay off $1020 of rendelnep's debt Pay paid UnOrthOdOx $100 rent Offer 5 vassals of UnOrthOdOx for hire at $10 each

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Will take 1 vassal at $10.

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Will take 1 vassal at $10.

Are you wanting to hire 1 of UnOrtho's available vassal or bid on the French one that's being autioned off?

You realize Unortho's is for hire (not own) and I haven't seen you try to use him for anything. Course if you bought two more shields and hired another labor from Apolyton you'd finish your Tavern AND Shoppe there this turn.

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You are on the money. Hiring for $10.

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Estate of Kloreep
Turn #: 006
Holdings: 006 Apolyton NW11 (mined bonus grass rd)

Stockpile: 0 food, 3 shields, 0 commerce
Cash: $955
Debt: -$1400 (10% interest, 10 turns remaining on grace period)
Buildings: Storehouse on Estate of Kloreep (Incomplete, 1 of 2)

Administered by: Kloreep

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Production this turn: 2 food, 2 shields, 1 commerce
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Proposed Deals:

Sell 2 food @ $1 minimum
Sell 1 shield @ $50 minimum
Sell 1 Commerce @ $50 minimum
Hire 1 labor from Apolyton to work on a tavern there.
Use my estate's vassal to convert a second shield for the tavern.
Hire 1 vassal from GhengisFarb at $10 to complete the tavern.

Edit: On second thought, I'm only going to sell one shield.

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Will take 1 vassal at $10.



quote:
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Hire 1 vassal from GhengisFarb at $10 to complete the tavern.


That's two labor used and three still available.

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House Julian Turn 6. Holdings: "The Mustang Ranch" - 001, Apolyton N, Grass w Horse 2/0/2 Buildings: Tavern in Apolyton (2+1of3 complete) Shoppe in Apolyton (0+3of3 complete) Stkp: 0 food 0 shields 0 commerce Prod: 2 food 0 shields 2 commerce Cash: $525 Debt: -$1000 (Interest begins turn 16) Selling: 2 Food to GF @ DS+$10 2 Comm @ $1 minimum Buying: 4 Shld @ $105 max Hiring 1 Vassal from GF for $10 Construction: Tavern in Apolyton 1 Shield +1 Labourer Shoppe in Apolyton 3 Shield +1 Labourer +2 Vassal Hire 2 labour from Apolyton @ $100 max


Buying more shields, hiring more labour (and 1 vassal from GF) and building more.

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I believe the session ends in less than 12 hours.

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The Jungle Lands
Turn #: 006
Holdings: 022 Tassagrad NW (jungle), BHQ SW10 (jungle river), BHQ NW Lower (jungle), BHQ NW Center11 (jungle), $200


Stockpile: 0 food, 0 shields, 0 commerce
Cash: $0
Debt: -$1000(10% interest, 14 turns remaining on grace period)
Buildings: None

Administered by: =OttomusCeasar=, Lord of the Jungle

Production this turn: 4 food, 0 shield, 1 commerce
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Proposed Deals:

Sell 4 of 4 food @ $1 minimum
Sell 1 of 1 commerce @ $1 minimum

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Jun 2002
time: 22:22
  Old Post 16-09-2002 23:48
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Question:

This may or may not be the appropriate place.

I thought buildings such as shops or taverns were going to require workers to operate. Is that still the case? I got lost in all the proposed changes.

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Sep 2002
time: 05:22
  Old Post 17-09-2002 00:07
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I'm new but in that discussion topic thingie they were proposing new buildings for next turn that required labor to make things.

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Re: $Mini-Game Trading Session 6 Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

FINAL TRANSACTION LIST FOR SESSION 6
Here's what I came up with for completed transactions:

Labor Market
Apolyton Available Labor: 6
D:S 4/6 = $67
GhengisFarb hired 1 labor @ $67
Kloreep hired 1 labor @ $67
notyoueither hired 2 labor @ $67

Termina Available Labor: 2
D:S 0/4 = $0
NO TRANSACTIONS


Tassagrad Available Labor: 5
D:S 1/5 = $20
GhengisFarb hired 1 labor @ $20

BHQ Available Labor: 5
D:S 1/5 = $20
GhengisFarb hired 1 labor @ $20

Port Rouge Available Labor: 3
D:S 0/4 = $0
NO TRANSACTIONS

Vassals for Auction:
1 French Vassal
.........No bids


D:S = 6/14 = $29 (Minimum Wage)
FINAL TRANSACTIONS:
GhengisFarb hired 1 labor in Apolyton @ $67
Kloreep hired 1 labor in Apolyton @ $67
notyoueither hired 2 labor in Apolyton @ $67
GhengisFarb hired 1 labor in BHQ @ $20
GhengisFarb hired 1 labor in Tassagrad @ $20


FOOD MARKET
Food demand: 42
Food supplied: 10
Food sold: 28

D:S = 42/(10+28)38 = 110.5
End price = $110
FINAL TRANSACTIONS:
Duddha sold 4 food @ $100
GhengisFarb sold 16 food @ $110 (Through Taverns)
jdd2007 sold 3 food to GhengisFarb @ $120
Jonny sold 1 food to GhengisFarb @ $120
Kloreep sold 2 food @ $110
Nimitz sold 2 food @ $110
notyoueither sold 2 food to GhengisFarb @ $120
=OptimusCeasar= sold 4 food @ $110




SHIELD MARKET
Shields demand: 25
Shields supplied: 27
Shields sold: 5 Shields bought: 4

D:S = 29(25+4)/32(27 +5) = 90.63
End price = $90-91
FINAL TRANSACTIONS:
Duddha sold 1 shields at $90
Jonny sold 2 shields at $90
Kloreep sold 1 shields at $90
notyoueither bought 4 shields at $91


COMMERCE MARKET
Commerce demand: 84
Commerce supplied: 8
Commerce sold: 11

D:S = 84/(8 + 11)19 = 442.1%
End price = $221
FINAL TRANSACTIONS:
Duddha sold 1 commerce at $221
jdd2007 sold 3 commerce at $221
Jonny sold 1 commerce at $221
Kloreep sold 1 commerce at $221
Nimitz sold 2 commerce at $221
notyoueither sold 2 commerce at $221
=OptimusCeasar= sold 1 commerce at $221


Total Incomes

adaMada received $110 rent from GhengisFarb
..........Total Income for Turn =$110 (Cash $440, Debt $1200)


civman2000 received $175 rent from GhengisFarb
civman2000 paid $175 of debt
..........Total Income for Turn =$175 (Cash $175, Debt $300)


Darkness' Edge
..........Total Income for Turn =$0 (Cash $0, Debt $400)


Duddha sold 4 food @ $100
Duddha sold 1 shields at $90
Duddha sold 1 commerce at $221
Duddha paid off $440 of debt
..........Total Income for Turn =$751 (Cash $956, Debt $480)


Epistax
..........Total Income for Turn = $0 (Cash $395, Debt $750)


Frances
..........Total Income for Turn =$0 (Cash $405, Debt $1100)


GhengisFarb hired 1 labor in Apolyton @ $67
GhengisFarb hired 1 labor in BHQ @ $20
GhengisFarb hired 1 labor in Tassagrad @ $20
Kloreep hired 1 vassal from GhengisFarb @ $10
notyoueither hired 1 vassal from GhengisFarb @ $10
GhengisFarb bought 3 food from jdd2007 @ $120
GhengisFarb bought 1 food from Jonny @ $120
GhengisFarb bought 2 food from notyoueither @ $120
GhengisFarb sold 16 food @ $110 (Through Taverns)
.....(Tavern bonus 16 X $55 (50% of $110))
GhengisFarb paid off $1020 of rendelnep's debt
..........Total Income for Turn =$428 (Cash=$1852, Debt=$1000)
TAVERN IN APOLYTON
TAVERN IN BHQ
TAVERN IN TASSAGRAD
STOREHOUSE ON ESTATE OF GHENGISFARB
FINISHED SHOPPE IN APOLYTON
FINISHED SHOPPE IN BHQ
FINISHED SHOPPE IN TASSAGRAD



jdd2007 sold 3 food to GhengisFarb @ $120
jdd2007 sold 3 commerce at $221
jdd2007 paid off $750 of debt
..........Total Income for Turn = $1023 (Cash $1088, Debt $0)

Jonny sold 1 food to GhengisFarb @ $120
Jonny sold 2 shields at $90
Jonny sold 1 commerce at $221
..........Total Income for Turn = $521 (Cash $1051, Debt $780)

Kloreep hired 1 labor in Apolyton @ $67
Kloreep hired 1 vassal from GhengisFarb @ $10
Kloreep sold 2 food @ $110
Kloreep sold 1 shields at $90
Kloreep sold 1 commerce at $221
..........Total Income for Turn =$454 (Cash $1409, Debt $1400)
FINISHED TAVERN IN APOLYTON

Kramerman
..........Total Income for Turn =$0 (Cash $545, Debt $1370)

Nimitz sold 2 food @ $110
Nimitz sold 2 commerce at $221
..........Total Income for Turn =$662 (Cash $1148, Debt $1500)

notyoueither hired 2 labor in Apolyton @ $67
notyoueither hired 1 vassal from GhengisFarb @ $10
notyoueither sold 2 food to GhengisFarb @ $120
notyoueither bought 4 shields at $91
notyoueither sold 2 commerce at $221
..........Total Income for Turn =$174 (Cash $699, Debt $1000)
FINISHED TAVERN IN APOLYTON
FINISHED SHOPPE IN APOLYTON


=OptimusCeasar= sold 4 food @ $110
=OptimusCeasar= sold 1 commerce at $221
..........Total Income for Turn =$661 (Cash $661, Debt $1000)

rendelnep
GhengisFarb paid off $1020 of rendelnep's debt
..........Total Income for Turn =$0 (Cash $0, Debt $0)

Shiek
..........Total Income for Turn =$0 (Cash $152, Debt $400)

skywalker
..........Total Income for Turn =$0 (Cash $405, Debt $1000)

Spiffor
..........Total Income for Turn =$0 (Cash $240, Debt $775)

UnOrthOdOx received $100 rent from GhengisFarb
..........Total Income for Turn =$100 (Cash $405, Debt $225)

Anyone notice any mistakes/corrections?


CURRENT STOCKPILES
Discontinued.....(Mind you I still keep track so don't think about fudging your inventory.)


CONSTRUCTION STATUS

Franses has built 4 of ? on a building in a city/estate.
GhengisFarb finished a Shoppe in Apolyton
GhengisFarb finished a Shoppe in BHQ
GhengisFarb finished a Shoppe in Tassagrad
Kloreep has built 1 of 2 on Storehouse on his Estate
Kloreep finished a Tavern in Apolyton
notyoueither finished a Tavern in Apolyton
notyoueither finished a Shoppe in Apolyton

COMMERCIAL HOLDINGS (Active during this session)
APOLYTON
GhengisFarb owns a Tavern in Apolyton

BHQ
GhengisFarb owns a Tavern in BHQ

TASSAGRAD
GhengisFarb owns a Tavern in Tassagrad

TERMINA
Epistax owns a Tavern? in Termina

RURAL HOLDINGS
GhengisFarb owns a Storehouse on tile 026 BHQ N (mountain)

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Sep 2002
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  Old Post 17-09-2002 19:30
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So at this rate I should pay off my debt in two turns?

When is the next turn?

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