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ricketyclik is offline ricketyclik
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Great Southern Land
Feb 2002
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What's the four colour map theorem?

J Bytheway is offline J Bytheway
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It's a theorem that states that any planar map (i.e. a division of the plane into regions, like countries) can be coloured using only four colours in such a way that no two adjacent regions share a colour (More formally: "Every planar map with regions of simple borders can be coloured with 4 colours in such a way that no two regions sharing a non-zero length border have the same colour." or "Every loopless planar graph admits a vertex-colouring with at most four different colours." from http://www.faqs.org/faqs/sci-math-faq/fourcolour/). It was proved recently (a quick google tells me that it was by K. Appel and W. Haken) by a method that used a great deal of computer effort. This is notable because it was the first famous mathematical proof using so much computer effort. This does, unfortunately, make it impossible to completely verify the proof by hand in any reasonable time (I believe it would take several lifetimes at the very least), and that caused some controversy. Since then, simpler versions of the proof have been constructed, but I think they still need some computer-aided verification.

ricketyclik is offline ricketyclik
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I see.

Mathemagician is offline Mathemagician
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Sep 2002
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my internet at home doesnt work, so i wasnt online since friday.
i hope i have it figured out soon. until then im only online at work.

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Sep 2003
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I'm going on a bussines trip for 4 days. I won't be abel to play any turns until Tuesday evening. (16/3)

ricketyclik is offline ricketyclik
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Bad news fellas. My hard drive is fried (on a friend's PC now). Taking it to a technician tomorrow, hopefully back soon.

Here's what happened: a friend of mine was given a PC, which was having trouble, so I tried to fix it for him. Tried to reformat his HD, it stopped responding. Brought it home, installed into my PC as a slave, tried to reformat it from there. It didn't respond. My PC started acting funny, and a day later, sudden collapse. Now my HD isn't responding. What do you reckon, a boot sector virus?

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It's a broken HD most likley. If you have valuable information you can get it restored and transfered to a new disk for 200-1000 $. Else, buy a new one.
If you can't reformat, partition, or anything, It's dead. It's not uncommon that HD's break after 3-5 years.

ricketyclik is offline ricketyclik
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I just took the HD to a shop, where their computer's bios was recognising the disk (mine wasn't), so now I'm thinking it might be the IDE channel. I'll try hooking it in to the other IDE tonight when I get home.

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Mississippi
Sep 2002
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You might have bent a pin or something on a connector.

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Sep 1999
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Or worse - 2 times within the lastest 2 years I have a failure on the primary controller on the motherboard on one of my pc's.

Rickety: Try to set the jumper on the HD as master and connect that to the primary controller (don't connect other HD/CD-rom) and try if you can see the unit when going into the BIOS-settings.

If so, connect your normal primary HD and change the 'problem unit" as master on the secondary controller. Then add CD-Rom and/or other HD one by one booting your pc, checking if units are found each time.

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Thanks for your advice Max. It seems the problem was the FDD, but I haven't yet tried reconnecting it to check. Anyway, I think I'm back (touch wood...) *ricketyclik touches his head*

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Nov 2001
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Hey folks, my apologies for the held-up games of late, tech problems combined with an intense semester in school means no time for gaming. I understand if I need to be nexted, moderators if you could just send a quick note to let me know I'm being nexted it would be appreciated. Once again, sorry.

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Thanks for your advice Max. It seems the problem was the FDD, but I haven't yet tried reconnecting it to check. Anyway, I think I'm back (touch wood...) *ricketyclik touches his head*


It wasn't the FDD at all. It was the jumper setting. I had the HDD set to "master", which it was, but when the slave HDD died, the master was the only one left. It seems that with this particular HDD, if it's the only one on the IDE, you don't set it as either master or slave.

Good luck with the studies David

Mathemagician is offline Mathemagician
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nice to hear that rick.
good luck, dave.


i learned that my internet was down because my IP was closed due to some copyright problems with paramount... strange...
it should be up again in a few days...

J Bytheway is offline J Bytheway
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Sorry I vanished for a few days - Windows died and needed reinstalling. Again. *sigh*.

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May 2000
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I am withdrawing from all PBEM games I am currently in.
Should any of these games be continued, you will have to find a replacement for me.
From now on, my PBEM activity will be restricted to the 2 games I am moderating.
(Like it already has been for the last month btw.)

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Dec 2001
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Just sick of waiting for turns, eh?

Glad to keep you around for moderating R2 Islands to its close though.

How long has that game been running?

Mathemagician is offline Mathemagician
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my internet at home is working again.

due to me downloading the turns at work and at my parents house during the last two weeks no turn should be awfully late though.

Keygen is offline Keygen
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Athens, Hellas
Jan 2000
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Sad to hear that Kris...

May I ask what led you to withdraw from all your games?
Slow turn rate?

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May I ask what led you to withdraw from all your games?
Slow turn rate?


I bet that is the reason (just take a look at our World-game) .

Flandrien is offline Flandrien
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Slow turn rate?


No turn rate whatsoever

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I see.

I would recommend you join the PBEM Challenge Ladder and start a couple of 1x1 games with people you know they play fast. That way you will receive turns in high rate and will remain to our place

You could also keep "World Scenario" since it will only take 10-15 to end and we only need a single replacement.

I hate to see old players leaving this place...

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Dec 2001
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I'm hung up currently. Just updated to OS X.3 and it's performed a dramatic slowdown! to my system.

I'm trying to correct the problem, but the slowdown also means that my turn output will be slowing down accordingly. hopefully it will pick back up soon, though I probably won't post and mention when it does.

Flandrien is offline Flandrien
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I would recommend you join the PBEM Challenge Ladder and start a couple of 1x1 games with people you know they play fast. That way you will receive turns in high rate and will remain to our place


Thanks, but no thanks.
For starting new games, I prefer civ3 conquests PBEM.


quote:
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You could also keep "World Scenario" since it will only take 10-15 to end and we only need a single replacement.


I can't even remember when I received the last turn of this game.

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Mississippi
Sep 2002
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I will be travelling and won't be able to send
any turns Till Wednesday about this time. Actually
I might play a few tommorrow morning but after
that .... Not till Wednesday.

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I think I'm back on track... no more major comp slowdowns, so we'll see if I can now catch up on all my turns.

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I think I'm back on track... no more major comp slowdowns, so we'll see if I can now catch up on all my turns.


Fine. Krajl is waiting just for you (Eagles).

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Fine. Krajl is waiting just for you (Eagles).


* FlameFlash nods. I'll be sure to either play it tonight, or next me in the morning.

blackice is offline blackice
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Canada where else...
Sep 2000
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I will be down for two days, I will be back online Monday....

Also phascnh±cogeco.ca is gone please direct all game turns to blackiceapolyton±cogeco.ca

blackice is offline blackice
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Ok delays, delays it will be tomorrow for any and all emails. At best tomorrow day, worst case senerio tomorrow night.

Keep in mind I will also need one full day minimum to catch up with the emails. Two days is usually 300+ I do not even want to think what 3-4 days puts me behind.

Please be patient. :0)

BI

 
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