15-09-2002 05:02									#1
	NGO : New Woodstock Support Apolyton, buy Civilization: The Boardgame

Recently arrived on Planet, Mankind want to protect its native life : this NGO is made to discuss and act about ecological questions and issues. Now that we understood the very basics of Centauri Ecology, it is time for us to be prepared to work with Planet, so that we can make it a comfortable place to live in.

Please also vote for the name of this NGO.

I couldnt find the old thread where we create NGO, so I create it right now. if we dont have the five members resuired within 72 hours, Ill ask a mod to delete this thread.

WE NEED FIVE SIGN-IN IN THAT NGO, ELSE IT WILL BE UNEFFECTIVE AND DELETED.

	15-09-2002 07:02									#2
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quote: Originally posted by Pandemoniak Recently arrived on Planet, Mankind want to protect its native life : this NGO is made to discuss and act about ecological questions and issues. Now that we understood the very basics of Centauri Ecology, it is time for us to be prepared to work with Planet, so that we can make it a comfortable place to live in. Please also vote for the name of this NGO. I couldnt find the old thread where we create NGO, so I create it right now. if we dont have the five members resuired within 72 hours, Ill ask a mod to delete this thread. WE NEED FIVE SIGN-IN IN THAT NGO, ELSE IT WILL BE UNEFFECTIVE AND DELETED.

This seems like a discussion group such as the "Network Node" among other things, and therefore the likelyness of it becoming a problem is small

I'll join

	15-09-2002 13:31									#3
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Considering that I'm in the Green wing of LSD, it's an obligation for me to join.

	15-09-2002 13:36									#4
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count me in

	15-09-2002 14:13									#5
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I'd like to join.

	15-09-2002 16:37									#6
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i think that's five

	16-09-2002 04:51									#7
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Industrial interests must be concerned with ecological issues. I'm in.

	16-09-2002 04:57									#8
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Hmmm..; An evil greedy capitalist morganite pig who cares more about (+2) economy than about (-3) planet... I fear some arguments coming there....
Anyway...
First discussion in this NGO : should we improve our fungal gin with some forest bulbs and creat a fungal wodka ?

( theres not really much to discuss until now...)

	16-09-2002 05:06									#9
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hmmm, i'll just get the ball rolling

being director of terraforming as your are pandemoniak, i seem to recall a campaign promise of yours was to erradicate all fungus within our territory. now i see you here creating a green NGO. don't these 2 actions just *conflict* a little wee bit? we can't harm our planet you know

	16-09-2002 05:10									#10
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quote: An evil greedy capitalist morganite pig who cares more about (+2) economy than about (-3) planet

Well, we can preserve the environment anyway, if we make legislation that allows conservation and industry to co-exist rather than creating conflict where none need be.

quote: should we improve our fungal gin with some forest bulbs and creat a fungal wodka ?

Absolutely.

	16-09-2002 05:19									#11
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quote: Originally posted by TKG hmmm, i'll just get the ball rolling being director of terraforming as your are pandemoniak, i seem to recall a campaign promise of yours was to erradicate all fungus within our territory. now i see you here creating a green NGO. don't these 2 actions just *conflict* a little wee bit? we can't harm our planet you know

I was speaking of the neighboor tiles around a base actually.
And I am more a earthly-green : lets make forests, since it doesnt hamr planet and help us !

	16-09-2002 06:49									#12
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I agree, we should plant forests all over the place, so in the future, we can have a lumber industry...bringing in a lot of minerals.

-Mellian

	16-09-2002 17:55									#13
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We shouldn't forget about farms. Do you expect our people to eat only berries and mushrooms?


Besides, we should leave some fungus near the base, in order to make fungal gin.

	16-09-2002 18:21									#14
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Environmentalism != having fungus all over the place. We're talking about base improvements here, and SE choices.

	16-09-2002 18:39									#15
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thats why we should build tree farms and hydred tree or whatevever. sure we'llneed to have the occasional farm, but trees everywhere......and a major mineral return! in the meantime, Green Economy!

-Mellian

	16-09-2002 21:33									#16
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Once the name is decided, may I suggest opening a new NGO thread and continue the discussion there?

	16-09-2002 21:44									#17
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Leave pollution to dirty collectivist filth like the Hive. We'll be running a clean, productive market economy here.

	17-09-2002 00:52									#18
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I'll join.

	17-09-2002 15:25									#19
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quote: Originally posted by moomin Leave pollution to dirty collectivist filth like the Hive. We'll be running a clean, productive market economy here.

I knew that soon politics will be involved.

	17-09-2002 17:28									#20
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To Maniac, the new thread will be created on the 22nd, since the poll last seven days.

And this place is not to discuss politics, it is to discuss our policy about environment : shall we go for fungus, or shall we go for forests, or shall we go for Farm/Solar/Roads + a few boreholes ?
How can we define our environmental policy ?

To Kirov : We can let a little tile of fungus for some Fungal wodka (That'll be Fungowska, fungal wodka instead of Zubrowska, bull herbs vodka)

	18-09-2002 08:57									#21
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I say we get one former sometime this decade to plant a forest or two between bases, then let it grow until we are ready to go with our forestation/lumber project

so yes, i vote Forests all the way maybe some boreholes, but away from our bases...on some island and then use crawlers to ship the minerals.

-Mellian

	18-09-2002 15:49									#22
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quote: Originally posted by Pandemoniak To Kirov : We can let a little tile of fungus for some Fungal wodka (That'll be Fungowska, fungal wodka instead of Zubrowska, bull herbs vodka)

You've won my heart, Pandemoniak.

	18-09-2002 18:03									#23
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what is NGO?

	18-09-2002 18:14									#24
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Non-Government Organisation.

	18-09-2002 18:17									#25
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quote: Originally posted by Mellian so yes, i vote Forests all the way maybe some boreholes, but away from our bases...on some island and then use crawlers to ship the minerals.

I like this idea, research tends to speed up somewhat when you've got a research city with 10 supply crawlers each bringing back 6 energy per turn (boreholes produce 6 energy )

EDIT: Omitting a question that had already been answered

	18-09-2002 19:48									#26
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Mmhhh... fungal vodka...

...yes, what did you say?
Sure, I'll join

	18-09-2002 20:12									#27
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quote: Originally posted by Pandemoniak To Maniac, the new thread will be created on the 22nd, since the poll last seven days.

Ah I see. I didn't know that as you didn't mention a date in your first post.

	19-09-2002 00:13									#28
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quote: Originally posted by Gnool I like this idea, research tends to speed up somewhat when you've got a research city with 10 supply crawlers each bringing back 6 energy per turn (boreholes produce 6 energy )

thats good if you're got lots of formers, but i like putting boreholes in the base radius and working them. crawling them seems so wasteful (you're wasting 6 mins) since they take so long to build.

	19-09-2002 07:41									#29
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i can just see the future debate on boreholes between the greenists and the free marketists,

anyway, we would of course need to research bio-engineering (or whatever the preq is) so we can get clean reactors. that way, we'll save the precious minerals for the military.

-Mellian

	19-09-2002 23:46									#30
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quote: Originally posted by TKG thats good if you're got lots of formers, but i like putting boreholes in the base radius and working them. crawling them seems so wasteful (you're wasting 6 mins) since they take so long to build.

I would be careful in planting boreholes in the base radius. I usually plant one, sometimes two, and next are built outside the bases.
And I think that instead of boreholes we should consider energy park. But the problem is, how to do good terraforming without causing ecological disaster?
Sometimes it's mutually exclusive.