19-09-2002 08:04									#121
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Yet you are willing to ignore up to 49% of the vote cast for the loser. What sort of democracy are we?

	19-09-2002 08:06									#122
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quote: Originally posted by jimmytrick Dead people still vote.

I mentioned that allready. Dead people have more power in the Electoral system as can be seen in the case of Dade County in 1960.

quote: It would be a zoo.

Jimmy if the 2000 election had merely been a zoo that would have been better.

It was an insane asylum and the inmates were running the place in Florida.

	19-09-2002 08:08									#123
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Thank God for the ignorant masses of America. Ethelred is here to inform all in an absolutely impartial manner.

Oops, I mentioned God. Ethel won't know which thread to respond in.

	19-09-2002 08:11									#124
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quote: Originally posted by Ethelred Jimmy if the 2000 election had merely been a zoo that would have been better. It was an insane asylum and the inmates were running the place in Florida.

Believe it or not I agree with you on this. I will point out the ineptness was repeated in the DEMOCRATIC primary. Run by the DEMOCRATIC party.

You can lead left wingers to the ballot but you can't teach them to count.

	19-09-2002 08:17									#125
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Elections are run by the state, not a party.

	19-09-2002 08:18									#126
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quote: Originally posted by jimmytrick Thank God for the ignorant masses of America. Ethelred is here to inform all in an absolutely impartial manner.

Gee Jimmy wasn't it you that just said The BribeTaker was in the line of succession for the presidency?

quote: Oops, I mentioned God. Ethel won't know which thread to respond in.

More bogus claims about what I think or can do. Are you sure you are in the right thread yourself?

This one is about the Electoral College.

	19-09-2002 08:25									#127
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quote: Originally posted by Ethelred Gee Jimmy wasn't it you that just said The BribeTaker was in the line of succession for the presidency?

No, I did not. Can't you read?

We were talking about the vice presidency.

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quote: Gee Jimmy wasn't it you that just said The BribeTaker was in the line of succession for the presidency?

Haven't you been paying attention at all? If the VP dies, there is no line of succession. The President nominates a candidate and then Congress can confirm or deny the President's nominee. If Cheney dies tommorrow (which is certainly possible ), then Bush could nominate Gringrich as his new VP. If Congress approves, Gingrich is the new VP. The line of succession for the Presidency has nothing to do with it.

I'm not even paying that much attention to this thread and I knew what jimmy was saying. Try to pay more attention; you're making a fool out of yourself.

And stop calling Gingrich "Bribetaker" like it is some sort of suprise that a politician was crooked. There all crooked, not just Gingrich...

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quote: The founders did not set up the Electoral College to avoid one man one vote.

Learn your political science. The founders did NOT want one man one vote. They were very fearful of democracy.

quote: They are not sovereign. The President should represent the people and not the states. We have the Senate for that allready.

The Senate is too little. I want more state power, like how it was supposed to be. And yes, the states are soveriegn over certain policy areas. They dictate laws on many, many, many things.

quote: Just another States Rights over human rights arguement. Why should a synthetic entity have more value than real people?

Um, because the synthetic entity declares the rights of the people?

I don't see how your argument has any more validity. All you are doing is pushing one synthetic entity over another. Like the states are dictatorships . I'd rather go with the synthetic entity that is closer to the people (ie, the states) than the one that is farther removed (ie, Washington).

	19-09-2002 09:44									#130
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quote: Originally posted by jimmytrick No, I did not. Can't you read? We were talking about the vice presidency.

Yes Jimmy I can read. Can you? I know you can type but can you read?

Were you aware that the Vice President is in line for the Presidency?

The Bribetaker isn't in office. He can't be the VP either. If he could he would be in line for the Presidency. The amendment covering all this is about the Presidency. The VP is in it because he is first in line for the Presidency.

	19-09-2002 09:57									#131
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He still doesn't get it.

	19-09-2002 09:58									#132
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Ethelred, are you sure you want to continue posting on this thread. That was a clear indication of just how far out of your depth you are.

Sorry, but I could resist flinging your insult back in your face. You are wrong on the facts.

But I appreciate your passion and persistance.

	19-09-2002 10:00									#133
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quote: Originally posted by Drake Tungsten Haven't you been paying attention at all?

Yes. Have you?

quote: If the VP dies, there is no line of succession.

In which case The Bribetaker isn't in line.

quote: The President nominates a candidate and then Congress can confirm or deny the President's nominee.

Yes. As I pointed out this was done after Agnew got caught with his hand in milk cartons.

quote: If Cheney dies tommorrow (which is certainly possible ), then Bush could nominate Gringrich as his new VP.

I take it then that your assuming that Bush is not only dumb but insane as well. Why ever would he nominate Newt?

quote: If Congress approves, Gingrich is the new VP. The line of succession for the Presidency has nothing to do with it.

If Congress approved a revolution might be the proper response as it would be clear that Congress had been taken over by aliens.

quote: I'm not even paying that much attention to this thread and I knew what jimmy was saying. Try to pay more attention; you're making a fool out of yourself.

I guess your right. You are not paying attention.

quote: And stop calling Gingrich "Bribetaker" like it is some sort of suprise that a politician was crooked. There all crooked, not just Gingrich...

They are NOT all crooked, as far as I can tell at least one Bush was honest, at least in regards to bribetaking. I am not sure about Dubya. Newt ANNOUNCED his bribe. He was amazed that people took issue with his 5 million dollar bribe from Murdock. I will not stop calling him what he is.

Calling all politicians dishonest is just a way to avoid dealing with the ones that really are dishonest. There is a big difference between wanting power, looking for funding, and takeing an out and out bribe to vote the way someone wants like Newt did. Murdoch got what he wanted as well. Someone should have told The Bribetaker what Jesse Unruh used to tell the new members of the California legistlature.

"If you can't take their money, drink their booze, and screw their women and then vote against them, you don't belong up here." Well Newt didn't vote against them so didn't belong in the House and now he isn't there. Good riddance.

	19-09-2002 10:03									#134
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Good God, I think Ethel is Bill Clinton!

	19-09-2002 10:05									#135
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quote: Originally posted by jimmytrick Ethelred, are you sure you want to continue posting on this thread. That was a clear indication of just how far out of your depth you are. Sorry, but I could resist flinging your insult back in your face. You are wrong on the facts.

No Jimmy I am not wrong.

If Dick Cheny died Newt The Bribetaker Gingrich could not become VP. Even Bush isn't that stupid. Neither is Congress.

quote: But I appreciate your passion and persistance.

The Electoral College is long past its time.

Get rid of that dinosaur. Put it out to pasture like the Bribetaker.

	19-09-2002 10:06									#136
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Everyone makes mistakes Ethel. God knows I do. And you have been quick to jump on me. Fess up and admit it. You were wrong. Confession is good for the soul.

Sure, I know you are embarassed to have insulted me only to find out you were indeed the ignorant one on that particular point. But we are all friends here. Its okay.