27-09-2002 21:51									#61
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Whatever you say...that's why I come to the experts

I don't even have a decent graphics editor, though...

	28-09-2002 00:23									#62
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Aro,
Map is loaded in one 50 seconds, 10 seconds for small map, 12 seconds for rest of page with dial-up-modem. It is OK for me and my ISP.
Regards
Sun_Tzu

	28-09-2002 01:22									#63
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Name idea for the Greek Island: Grecos, kinda of a play on the isle of Lesbos. I can eventually see Greece being run off our continent and Grecos being the only remnants of their civilization.

	28-09-2002 01:34									#64
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Thanks for the info, Sun_Tzu. Hey, we have an academy with the same name in Ubergorsk...

=OttomusCeasar, I like the idea... I was a builder, but now...
KILL! KILL! KILL!

	29-09-2002 19:53									#65
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New Maps!

The updated World Map (430 AD) and the Uber Isle Map (430 AD) are in my site, http://www.arociv.com/Maps.html .

The WM thumbnail:

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	29-09-2002 19:54									#66
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And the Uber Isle thumbnail:

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	29-09-2002 20:53									#67
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Another interesting map: The Empire, circa 430 AD. You will find it in the same place, http://www.arociv.com/Maps.html , as usual.

A thumbnail:

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	29-09-2002 22:45									#68
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You rock, Aro

	30-09-2002 00:00									#69
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Thanks, Arnelos. You too, man...

	03-10-2002 08:59									#70
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Guys, I'll wait for the next turchat or turthread to make the maps. The reason? I am, like Arnelos, member and supporter of a Party here, in Brazil. Well, not exactly like Arnelos, I'm on the left wing… And we can win, for the first time in Brazil! I’m not a complete radical, but this is a poor country, we need this change.... The fact is: we'll have four days before the elections, and I'll be very, very busy in these days... I promise all the maps just after the next turnchat (this is not a politician promise; I can assure you ).

	03-10-2002 12:37									#71
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Well, good luck then. Which party, if I may ask?

It's been a while since I did much watching of domestic politics in Brazil... Is Cardosso back on the ballot this time again... I thought I heard someone else was running for his side?

	03-10-2002 12:50									#72
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Ok, I looked up some info on the race...

Interesting.... da Silva and Gomes are both running again, apparently... I assume you're a supporter of da Silva, no?

As for Cardosso, I see he's not running and Serra is running in his place (and apparently doing very badly)...

Well, I suppose the good there is that the leftists in Brazil are more like the leftists in Chile and Argentina than, say, the leftists in Venezuala

This could be interesting, good luck.

	03-10-2002 13:31									#73
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quote: Originally posted by Arnelos Ok, I looked up some info on the race... Interesting.... da Silva and Gomes are both running again, apparently... I assume you're a supporter of da Silva, no? As for Cardosso, I see he's not running and Serra is running in his place (and apparently doing very badly)... Well, I suppose the good there is that the leftists in Brazil are more like the leftists in Chile and Argentina than, say, the leftists in Venezuala This could be interesting, good luck.

Thanks, Arnelos!
Yes, I'm a supporter of da Silva and his party. They are a little more... how can I say... Civilized. In addition, they have the support of middle class, too. Lula (da Silva) has his larger percentage of votes inside the sectors of society with a college degree (this is surprising, in Brazil). In fact, is more like... uh... the left wing of the Socialist parties in Europe (well, without the corruption ). But it's not a good comparison.
An interesting thing to you, who is involved in politics in a professional level: The PT (“Partido dos Trabalhadores": Worker's Party; not Labour Party) has a modern concept of what is "left", it’s not a Marxist party. I’ll search for some links in English (Spanish, maybe?) about the “PT”. Let me see…it's not a populist party, like the “Peronistas” in Argentina, for instance, or the Socialist Party in Spain, It’s not a communist party too… it’s different.
Unfortunately, my English is not good enough to say more… I’m sure this could be very informative.
You know how this works: some people don’t like politics, some don’t care, and others just love it.

	03-10-2002 19:16									#74
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I am looking at the site http://www.arociv.com/Maps.html

the 430AD map is the only link working, correct?

Interesting spread - your nice and close to Berlin, how are they getting along with their neighbours? I wouldn't want Greece and Germany getting too friendly. France and US are neutralised I see. England never seems to amount to much. Are the Aztecs on the war path yet? It always amazes me how many units they can slap down. Aztecs and Persians - godz, I hate those two!

	03-10-2002 19:35									#75
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Bolverk, I tested all links, and all seem to be working. The 430 maps are the only ones updated, I'm a little short of time these days (see my posts above! The site is a little messed; I'll try to make it more organized after the elections here in Brazil.
The Aztecs are on war with America, they just took Washington in the last turnchat. About this, see
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...67&pagenumber=4 .

	03-10-2002 19:39									#76
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Another interesting detail: Chartres is expanding culturally too fast, see this image:

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	03-10-2002 19:49									#77
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Yes...I think we should do SOMETHING about that... It is our city! Let us take it!!! And Rheims too!!!

	03-10-2002 20:05									#78
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I suggest that Opaid__n either rush build the Libary it's set to or switch to Catherdrial and rush that. (Which ever is cheaper.)

We should be putting the culture pressure on Chartres instead of Chartes putting culture pressure on our cities.

	03-10-2002 20:10									#79
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quote: Originally posted by Aro Bolverk, I tested all links, and all seem to be working. The 430 maps are the only ones updated, I'm a little short of time these days (see my posts above! The site is a little messed; I'll try to make it more organized after the elections here in Brazil.

Thanks, Aro! I just got on to this forum, and am trying to catch up on this game. Of course, as soon as I saw "maps", that's the first place I look!

quote: The Aztecs are on war with America, they just took Washington in the last turnchat. About this, see http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...67&pagenumber=4 .

Thanks again! Where should I look for info about the nation?

	03-10-2002 20:24									#80
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Here's some useful links:
Term 4 Forum Directory:
The Jungle Gazette
Game report 430-440 AD
Special Economic Report: Monarchy vs. Republic
The Jungle Gazette - subscribe here
The State of the Nation: 430 AD

you'll find useful info and other links in those threads.

Welcome, and enjoy!

	04-10-2002 08:17									#81
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Hadn't looked in here before, I'm afraid, but this is great stuff. Aro deserves a city named after him, I think. I'd propose it, but I ain't sure who to propose it to anymore!

And hey! When are we going to see History Guy City?

	04-10-2002 10:42									#82
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Aro,

The Economist is running a story about Brazil's election on its front page this week. Luckily, they've also put it in the free section of their website. People can check it out here:

http://www.economist.com/displaysto...tory_id=1365223

	04-10-2002 18:19									#83
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Thanks for the link, Arnelos!
The articles are a little... uh... biased (), but in general give some good info about the moment.

	04-10-2002 18:27									#84
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Of course they're biased, it's the Economist But what you expect as reading material for a center-right internationalist?

	04-10-2002 18:37									#85
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Exactly... And what you expect reading comments about this coming from a center left internationalist (I used to be a trotskist, in my youth... believe it or not!)?
Anyway, is good to see the international press with so much interest in my country.

	04-10-2002 18:43									#86
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quote: Originally posted by Aro (I used to be a trotskist, in my youth... believe it or not!)?

My best friend (a Filipino citizen who lives in the DC area) told me that he'd recently asked his father if he was a Maoist in the 60's... his father (a World Bank employee since the 70's) responded "we were all Maoists in the 60's"

	04-10-2002 18:49									#87
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Well, I never was a Maoist... However, they were very strong in the students movement in the 70's (Hey, I'm not too older... )
Btw, Cardoso's candidate, Jose Serra, was a radical left wing in the 60's...

	11-10-2002 18:45									#88
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Here's the 530 AD World Map : http://www.arociv.com/Maps.html .

A thumbnail:

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	11-10-2002 20:55									#89
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quote: Originally posted by Aro Here's the 530 AD World Map : http://www.arociv.com/Maps.html . A thumbnail:

hi ,

Aro , can you post one again here , like the other big one you did , .....

have a nice day

	14-10-2002 00:35									#90
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World Map 580 AD is here, http://www.arociv.com/Maps.html

Panag, I'm very busy with RL for some days, but soon I will try this again.