17-09-2002 00:18									#1
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the more hype i hear, the less i'm beginning to care. think i'll ignore the whole thing til it actually comes out - then see the reaction to find out if ptw is a to be patched beta add - on, just like the origional. looks like some cool stuff, just hope its pretty well debugged - frustration po's me in something thats supposed to relieve stress.

	17-09-2002 00:59									#2
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I don't think PTW is that much hyped..

	17-09-2002 01:28									#3
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Really, where is the hype? Firaxis has hardly said a word on it. Nor has Infogrames. Most of the "hype" is just conjectures by fans, not real info or hype.

	17-09-2002 04:23									#4
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agree with above thoughts. where's the hype? I guess if you don't want hype or interest in the game, then you shouldn't be on this site or at least this forum.

	17-09-2002 08:53									#5
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jeez, ok, sure, no hype, gues i overstated it.

just wish we could get more.......hype

like solid info

	17-09-2002 23:46									#6
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True. We still depend on speculations about many parts of the addon...

	18-09-2002 04:22									#7
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If anything, PtW should be promoted more. I don't know if Firaxis/Infogrammes is trying to save advertising dollars but the expansion seems to almost be coming in below the radar.

We're what--a month or so away from the expected release? No "Civ of the Week" on the official site. No flurry of screenshots. No elaborate articles from gaming sites that have received a preview build of the XP. Not much of anything to stoke the fan's excitement.

I know they can't hope to recapture the heady days before Civ III was released. But still, it almost seems as if they don't want PtW to get a lot of attention. Disturbing, to say the least.

	18-09-2002 05:06									#8
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I just saw a two page ad in PC Gamer. Maybe the marketing campaign is finally starting. I doubt Firaxis has much to do with the marketing though. That is most likely Infogrames. After all, it's their money.

	18-09-2002 05:12									#9
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quote: Originally posted by Terser We're what--a month or so away from the expected release? No "Civ of the Week" on the official site. No flurry of screenshots. No elaborate articles from gaming sites that have received a preview build of the XP. Not much of anything to stoke the fan's excitement.

that's a good point

where are the civs of the week?

	18-09-2002 07:19									#10
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There hasn't been much hype though I still won't be buying it until I hear the quality of PtW from a few of our loyal Apolyton contributors.

	18-09-2002 07:32									#11
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quote: Originally posted by Oerdin There hasn't been much hype though I still won't be buying it until I hear the quality of PtW from a few of our loyal Apolyton contributors.

Prudent, but I don't have the willpower.

	18-09-2002 09:38									#12
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yeah, i'm going to wait a bit - i think.......

maybe hint around about xmas wishes........

would like to see bugs. got real p o'ed with origional

d@mnit! i want the scoop. guess i really do want more hype - solid real $hit syuff, you know?

	18-09-2002 21:32									#13
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They will release info about the pack when they see fit. They are just more cautious about it, because of all the problems that Civ3 faced when it was released.

I also would like to hear what our fellow Apolytoners will say about the pack. If Coracle says that PTW sucks, then I know that I'll have to buy it.

	18-09-2002 22:11									#14
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quote: Originally posted by Alexnm They will release info about the pack when they see fit. They are just more cautious about it, because of all the problems that Civ3 faced when it was released.

I don't see why it would be detrimental to release real information about the new civs and their units and traits.

Unless of course they're still be tested and balanced, in which case it is understandable.

	18-09-2002 22:18									#15
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Promotionary things even as simple as "Civ of the Week" would do them well even among their current fanbase. But while caution is good for them, if they continue to (at least seemingly) 'under-hype' it may serve to shoot themselves in the foot.

	18-09-2002 22:39									#16
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quote: Originally posted by N. Machiavelli Promotionary things even as simple as "Civ of the Week" would do them well even among their current fanbase. But while caution is good for them, if they continue to (at least seemingly) 'under-hype' it may serve to shoot themselves in the foot.

But I'm sure you'll agree that if they did say a lot about the upcoming release, a huge number of whiners on this board and elsewhere would start complaining about the evils of corporate hype machines.

Better, I think, to let the finished product speak for itself. They don't need to hype PTW, because look at the response that mere news of the upcoming release has generated right here.

Many fans of Civ type games know PTW is coming--and that's enough. Nobody is going to say on release day "I'm not buying it because the company didn't provide enough pre-release information!"

	18-09-2002 23:20									#17
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It's a fact that it is impossible to please everyone all the time; but a balance of advertising vs faith on fanbase is key, I think. I just wonder if that balance is being reached and if Firaxis/Inforgrames is doing all that it can to achieve it.
There isn't much doubt in my mind that PtW will be a success among the Civ3 fanbase; but I also think that they can afford to give a little extra *oomph* to strengthen the product through advertising and still be 'tasteful'.

	19-09-2002 02:49									#18
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quote: Originally posted by asleepathewheel I don't see why it would be detrimental to release real information about the new civs and their units and traits. Unless of course they're still be tested and balanced, in which case it is understandable.

Probably you are right on the spot. When Civ III was promoted with "Civ of the week" info, many things were still subject to change (mainly unique units stats and Civ's traits).

While it's understandable that balancing some value is a relevant part of the late test, sometimes people considered that a really late change, like a bad sign of hurried game test.

Maybe Firaxis prefer to play safe this time

	19-09-2002 17:08									#19
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quote: Originally posted by Adm.Naismith Maybe Firaxis prefer to play safe this time

They do. They already stated that before.

	22-09-2002 04:27									#20
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i can't wait to play Civ III multi-player it will be 10X funner me and my WARMONGER friends have been wanting to destroy each other for long time oh boy oh boy OH BOY!!