18-09-2002 01:33									#1
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Hi,

I noticed that the "GMT" notification at the bottom of the Apolyton pages is actually an hour off.

I get:

All times are GMT +1 hour. The time now is 22:32.
Apolyton Time is 16:32.

while http://greenwichmeantime.com/ says:

You arrived at Greenwich at: 20:32 GMT.


The notification should read (for my time zone - middle Europe): "All times are GMT +2 hours".

This is because of daylight savings time. Notice that the UK is actually on +1 GMT now because of this!

So - to calculate the time at which a chat session starts, better go to the offical website of Greenwich. DO NOT try to calculate it from Apolyton (until they fix it).

	18-09-2002 03:20									#2
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hi ,

the GMT runs correct on this site , .....

have a nice day

	18-09-2002 09:50									#3
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Thank you for letting us know. I had seen that on other sites, but hadn't checked to see if it was an issue here. Next month, once DST is over with, time will be accurate again.

	18-09-2002 10:04									#4
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This should just about be stickied.

At the very least put it in the guide.

	18-09-2002 12:14									#5
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quote: Originally posted by kring Thank you for letting us know. I had seen that on other sites, but hadn't checked to see if it was an issue here. Next month, once DST is over with, time will be accurate again.

No, it will not, it is wrong now (one hour a head) and when we start our DST it will be one hour late I think

	22-09-2002 04:17									#6
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For informational purposes am I correct in thinking that

4pm GMT = 5pm UK time = 12pm EST

Also what is PST (I think togas is on this)

If people can post their timezones and how they relate to GMT I can include them in the time/reports thread.

	22-09-2002 10:04									#7
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PST = EST - 3:00

	22-09-2002 11:07									#8
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You are confusing Eastern Standard Time (EST) with Eastern Daylight Time (EDT). This wouldn't be important if it wasn't for Indiana, which is *always* on EST and never moves to EDT (the rest of us are on EDT until the end of October).

EDT is GMT - 4 while EST is GMT - 5.

So OPD is partially correct in that 4 p.m. GMT *is* 12 p.m. Eastern Time, just not "EST" (rather EDT). As I said above, this wouldn't be important if it wasn't for the poor people in Indiana who might get confused :-P.

The other state in the U.S. that doesn't use daylight savings time is Arizona, which always remains on MST (GMT - 7), rather than moving to MDT (GMT - 6) part of the year.

As for Pacific time, it is Eastern time - 3 hours, but they're currently on PDT (GMT - 7), not PST (GMT - 8).

For a quick reference, here you go:

Eastern Daylight Time (EDT) = GMT - 4

Eastern Standard Time (EST) = GMT - 5
Central Daylight Time (CDT) = GMT - 5

Central Standard Time (CST) = GMT - 6
Mountain Daylight Time (MDT) = GMT - 6

Mountain Standard Time (MST) = GMT - 7
Pacific Daylight Time (PDT) = GMT - 7

Pacific Standard Time (PST) = GMT - 8

As for Alaska and Hawaii, Alaska is GMT - 9 and Hawaii is GMT - 10, but I don't know if they use daylight savings time during part of the year or not.

	22-09-2002 12:13									#9
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Some use daylight time, others don't. It's one big mess

It's a good thing there is no "Daylight Time" advance in Civ 3

	22-09-2002 19:25									#10
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New Zealand time = GMT +12 hours.


I'm WAAAAY ahead of you all.

	22-09-2002 19:31									#11
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Brazilian time = GMT - 3 hours

	22-09-2002 19:52									#12
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I just wish that they would get rid of DST. It really doesn't apply for the kind of country that we are today, i.e. more industrial/commercial that aggrarian(sp?).

E_T

	23-09-2002 12:19									#13
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Arizona and Indiana don't use Daylight Savings Time? *sigh* What's wrong with those Indians?

I suggest we give the Daylight Savings tech to the Iroquois for free...!



Middle Europe is GMT+1, but we are on Daylight Savings Time now, so that's GMT +2.

	24-09-2002 04:15									#14
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Ok then here are the time summaries if you havn't put your time down then do it now and i'll put it in the times thread with these. In particular I'm interested to see what time Shiber is on.

all times relative to GMT

PST -8
PDT -7
MST -7
MDT -6
CST -6
CDT -5
EST -5
EDT -4
ARO -3 (Brazillian time)
GMT
BST +1 (OPD time)
MWIA +12 (lol you're way out, New Zeland time)

Is this correct? Anyone else? Which of these times are not in use?

	24-09-2002 16:29									#15
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BFM: GMT +2 :-)

	08-10-2002 21:55									#16
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Time in Argentina: GMT -3
(No DST)

-- They haven't actually fixed this problem, in order to display the correct time on Apolyton I have to set my settings to -4 GMT. --

	08-10-2002 22:07									#17
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Israel time is +2:00 GMT as of yesterday, in case you want to update your list.

	08-10-2002 22:20									#18
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Wow, you resurected this old thread

	08-10-2002 23:12									#19
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Since the thread was brought back up:

Hawaii doesn't use Daylight Time.

Alaska probably does.

Actually, the only place in Arizona that observes daylight time IS one of the indian tribes reservations.

Most of Western Europe switches back to standard time the same day the US does. However most of Western Europe switches from standard time to daylight time one week earlier than the US.

A Canadian says that Canada switches back and forth on the same days the US does.

Myself, I think that a better time period for Daylight Time would be between Mar 22 & Sep 22 instead of lasting most of October when I'm more tired in the morning than any of time of the year.