18-09-2002 07:16									#1
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My first official thread!

Okay, here's the deal England's sending a spear and settler to claim New Sidon (their currently passing the Tyre Concentration Camp for Miseducated Persians (TCCMP)). We need to get a settler there ASAP.

	18-09-2002 12:15									#2
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Ouch. That's a very old map you're using :-)

	18-09-2002 15:48									#3
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IIRC, that was the current map when Ghengis originally proposed it and drew the map up, which was a little while ago...

-- adaMada

	18-09-2002 16:53									#4
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Yeah I noticed the British invaders when I first opened the save and wanted to bring this up immediately but Aro needs time to rdo the map.

	18-09-2002 17:31									#5
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I've found in my games that it is very possible to stall settlement motions by foreign civs. If a unit can be detached, preferably a horseman or war chariot (for it's movement points) it can harry them in their path. The AI will not settle on certain land squares and as such you can delay the settlement or perhaps permanently forestall it (they eventually give up). The more units that can block it the better, altho I realize we're hard pressed with units already (stretched a bit thin).

	18-09-2002 19:41									#6
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The new map is in my site, http://www.arociv.com/Maps.html .
There's a new map of Uber Isle, too.

Last edited by Aro on 18-09-2002 at 20:10

	18-09-2002 20:18									#7
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Since it appears the germans have no great desire to resettlemunick, could we use that settler to settle new sidon. Just an idea.
Aggie

	19-09-2002 03:11									#8
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We'd still have to make another settler and move it out to New Munich.

And that's assuming he'd get there. Our settlers are the dumbest and laziest beings in the history of all 3 versions of Civilization! They refuse to move, sometimes spending 3-5 turns sitting in a city and not going where they were supposed to.

The settler for New Munich had two sets of identical written instructions and two pictures with arrows in case the moron couldn't read AND IT STILL WENT TO THE WRONG TILE.

	19-09-2002 04:21									#9
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The thing is all but one of those dyes near munich will be in are territory soon so I am unsure if we even need that settler, since the germans don't seem interested(though i wonder if the english could be)though the one from loveshack could fill the bill if necessary once loveshack gets to 3 we can rush, actually we won't have to rush we can time it to be built at the same time as the city gets to 3 cool. We could bring the other dyes online until that city is built. Also I can move units to slow him down.
Aggie

	19-09-2002 04:29									#10
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What do you have against cities? We have to build cities to play the game. If you don't want cities why are we taking the Persian cities?

	20-09-2002 03:08									#11
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We can block him from getting to the New Sidon Location (that will require some of our troops). But the real thing that needs to concern us is: As soon as Tyre is abandond to build New Tyre, they will build where ever they are at.

We need to have a Settler on the New Tyre location when we abandon Tyre! This will prevent them from building where ever they will be at.

Actually, I think that the location of New Tyre should be exactly where the English Settler is currently located. It will be less impact on other cities. It will be on a river, so we won't have to build an Aquaduct. And have more access to more potential farmlands, so to feed the mine workers that we'll employ (8 vs 7).

E_T

[EDIT]: I see in GF's plan that he's already set the New Tyre Site to what I had origially posted.

P.S. We should rename New Tyre to Aggoplis!

Last edited by E_T on 20-09-2002 at 03:34