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quote: Originally posted by jpww Turn 34 to BlackIce ------------------------ Constantin, Your diplomat has been sent home because of your failure to comply with our regulations.

Which regulations?!? I had send you an email asking for permission to enter your lands to cross them and go to the east. It is a well known that a diplomat cannot harm anyone and should permited to go through someone else's lands to reach his final destination.

And I wish to know why you expeled my settler who was away from Brazilian lands and near to English lands, why a Brazilian mounted archer has been sent behind my troops line and approaching English cities and why a Brazilian phalanx is trying to get through my troop line in the south and enter English city radius?

All these sounds very hostile actions against the peaceful English!
I wish a formal expaination now!

	09-06-2001 20:31									#64
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Constantin,

I think it is the other way around! It is YOU who has been trying to squeeze me out of the picture. My phalanx and mounted archer were well within my civ. limits; they had to retreat in view of your dishonorable intentions.

The world urges you to explain your treacherous behavior!

Your diplomat was sent home because of your refusal to pay 200gold. Everyone knows we collect 200gold per unit crossing our territory. We can't afford to let our beautiful roads go to waste; it costs a lot of money to keep them in excellent condition!


Joao Paulo

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	10-06-2001 09:00									#65
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quote: Originally posted by jpww Constantin, I think it is the other way around! It is YOU who has been trying to squeeze me out of the picture. My phalanx and mounted archer were well within my civ. limits; they had to retreat in view of your dishonorable intentions. The world urges you to explain your treacherous behavior!

One nation's lands are defined by its cities and you don't have cities there while I have or would have if you hadn't expel my settler twise. Borders are established either by mutual agreement or by positioning units. I am sorry if I happened to establish cities there first or send troops to claim the area before you.
Besides you are squeezed by other nations too and not only mine.

If you want to discuss it I am willing to open a dialogue with you but your two military units will have to withdraw from the area.

I agree to share lands between us therefore I am willing not to settle anymore on the more fertile and valuable lands on the southeast of my lands, where your phalanx is. I won't claim either the lands in the far north but the lands on near north, west of your lands, where your mounted archer is will be claimed as English. Besides most of its part is desert...

quote: Originally posted by jpww Your diplomat was sent home because of your refusal to pay 200gold. Everyone knows we collect 200gold per unit crossing our territory. We can't afford to let our beautiful roads go to waste; it costs a lot of money to keep them in excellent condition!

I am sorry but I wasn't aware of the price.
Besides you should inform me when I asked for permission as I am only subing PN.
You didn't even bothered to answer...

	11-06-2001 17:29									#67
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joao paulo,

Please be patient for a turn or two while I review the situation that the Prince Regent Keygen has engineered while I've been away on my crusades.

BTW, I'm back from honeymoon. Thanks to Keygen for taking my turns

	11-06-2001 18:44									#68
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Welcome back PN; I just sent turn 35 to you and Keygen.

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Turn 35 --> joao paulo (jpww)

I hope that the antagonism between the Brazilians and my prince regent (Keygen) can be cooled down now that I have returned to rule my lands once again.

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Turn 35 sent

	12-06-2001 05:09									#71
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Turn 35 to BlackIce (I guess you already knew that )
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Austin,

We are happy to hear of your return. May your nation enjoy everlasting prosperity under your command. We consider everything that was said by your clumsy Prince Regent water under the bridge.

Joao Paulo

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Turn 35 to Eohian

	13-06-2001 05:50									#74
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Turn 36 to PN if you are not too tired...

	13-06-2001 12:50									#75
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Cheeky

Turn 36 --> joao paulo

	14-06-2001 03:52									#76
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Turn 36 to BlackIce
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Terrible news have shocked the Brazilian nation. English troops attempted to ambush a Brazilian mounted archer by the name of Leitao. Leitao had no choice but to defend himself. We urge the English nation to stop trying to bully us!

Joao Paulo

	14-06-2001 08:52									#77
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	14-06-2001 09:20									#78
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I'm sorry about reading the war started in the unknown world. El chompiras is really bored but have a dream, something like a deja'vu, about writing for the 3rd time the same:

"Our scientist are near to complete their researchs of a great state of the maind which will stop the advantages gained from the actual wonders of the world"

El chompiras start preparing the world wide fair of the mayans in the next 150 years (3 turns)

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BTW Turn 36 sent to Eohian

	14-06-2001 20:29									#79
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John Doe: Sir, report sir, There has been an opening of hostilities between the Brazils and the Redcoats...

Eohian: Lt. Doe, issue the following immeadiately:

It is with a heavy heart that the American people learn that our brothers and sisters in Brazil and England have gone to war. We fervently hope and pray that there will be an immeadiate cease fire and that cooler heads will prevail.

John Doe: I will issue it immeadiately.

Turn 37 sent to PN

	14-06-2001 22:03									#80
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Turn 37 --> joao paulo

History will show how the Brazilians:

1. Expelled English diplomats despite previous agreements that they would not do so.
   
2. Ignored friendly advice of a safe route for their horseman back to their own lands.
   
3. Did not listen to offers of negotiation over territory
   
4. Instead, launched an unprovoked attack on an English unit thereby starting a war between our peoples.
   
5. Did this when clearly the military readiness of the English showed that we are in no mood for a fight.
   

	15-06-2001 03:44									#81
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Turn 37 to BlackIce

I can't believe this!

This is preposterous!

This is my refutation:

1. A handsome amount of gold was sent to the English
for the diplomat incident.

2. The English cleverly tried to lead my horse man
into an ambush.

3. Apparently the English' greed for land has no
boundaries!

4. See number 2

5. I have had to raise the military readiness of my
troops because we are outnumbered and outmatched by
the English war machine. Don't let their low military
readiness fool you!

Thanks,

Joao Paulo

	15-06-2001 04:49									#82
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The Times newspaper of London reports that "sources" (believed to be diplomats close to the English leadership) have leaked copies of a memorandum sent by Austin Cambridge to joao paulo of Brazil. The memorandum is as follows:

quote: joao paulo, Please move your horseman 1 tile North and then continue East until you are close to your new Brazilian city. This is not a demand, it is advice. Otherwise the horseman will find itself stranded to the west of the English border guards with no route back to Brazilian territory. You are probably aware now of the English/Brazilian border which extends from the South coast where you expelled a settler several turns ago to the North coast close to your horseman. The land west of this border is claimed as English, and we make no claim on land to the East. This is not an artificial border designed to grab land. The guards are only a couple of tiles away from English cities, except for close to the North coast where there may be some room for negotiation if you feel that your lands are being squeezed between the English to the West and the Romans to the East and North. I'd be interested to hear of your explorations further South.

In fact, the Times war correspondent understands that the Brazilian horseman travelled North and then North East where it encountered an English phalanx. The phalanx, being on a Northern coast could not move West towards its own territory and did not want to travel East which would have meant trespassing in the land around a Brazilian city. Instead it remained where it was and was unmercilessly attacked by the Brazilian horseman.

The Times believes that the second and third paragraphs of Austin
Cambridge's note are a sign of the non-aggression of the English towards the Brazilians, and of a willingness to negotiate about territory and borders. It therefore fails to understand why the Brazilians declared war, and then followed this up by mounting a worldwide propaganda campaign about English aggression.

We can only hope that the action of the horseman was not authorised by the great Brazilian leader joao paulo, that the mounted unit will be court martialed and disbanded, and that peace will be offered to the English leadership before we are plunged into a war following this unfortunate border skirmish.

Even now, English cities are reported to be gearing up their musketeer and cannon production, financed by the 13 trade routes made possible by the Labyrinth...

	15-06-2001 07:01									#83
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Need I say more?

Austin makes no attempt to conceal his intentions:

quote: ... Even now, English cities are reported to be gearing up their musketeer and cannon production, financed by the 13 trade routes made possible by the Labyrinth.

I wonder what the word "stranded" means in this paragraph

quote: Please move your horseman 1 tile North and then continue East until you are close to your new Brazilian city. This is not a demand, it is advice. Otherwise the horseman will find itself stranded to the west of the English border guards with no route back to Brazilian territory.

Austin might as well add " I claim this planet in the name of Mars... hmm... ain't it lovely?... hmm"

	15-06-2001 09:26									#84
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Turn 37 to Eohian
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Come on, sign a cease of fire and have fun [with tanks and warwallkers is more funny ]

	15-06-2001 18:41									#86
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bertexpert, I am not a war unless you know something I don't

turn 38 sent to PN

	15-06-2001 19:08									#87
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quote: Originally posted by eohian bertexpert, I am not a war unless you know something I don't turn 38 sent to PN

I think he meant PN & jpww .

Common guys, this is a deathmatch! Noone should apology for starting a war. To win this game you will have to eliminate the rest players .

	15-06-2001 20:24									#88
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Turn 38 --> joao paulo

Sources close to the Times newspaper have revealed that Austin Cambridge, being the educated and civilised leader that he is, has offered peace to joao paulo of Brazil, despite being the victim of aggression, and ignoring the Brazilian propaganda that seeks to persuade the world that it was England and not Brazil that started the war.

Our war correspondent reports that the English military forces have not retaliated against the Brazilians as this is a war that the country does not want. There is uneasiness in the new English town of Newcastle where the faithful population rapidly built city walls after Brazilian forces were found to be marching towards the city.

The Times understands that Brazil has claimed that expulsion from Brazil of an English diplomat was handsomely compensated. The sources have shown that this "compensation" was in fact a refund of a previous charge made by Brazil for a visa.

The Times economic correspondent notes that more domestic trade routes have been opened in England, potentially further swelling the "war chest" if that should be necessary. However, the English treasury department has indicated that it would rather spend this wealth on economic and scientific projects, and perhaps as grants to underdeveloped nations like Brazil if only they would cease their aggression.

	16-06-2001 02:48									#89
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quote: Originally posted by Keygen Common guys, this is a deathmatch! Noone should apology for starting a war. To win this game you will have to eliminate the rest players .

We have a saying here: "When in Rome, do what Romans do!"

	16-06-2001 21:06									#90
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Turn 38 to BlackIce
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The Brazilian people has as much interest in war as the English do. We have therefore signed a peace treaty with the English. Unlike what Prince regent Constantine asserts, I do not demand an apology from the English. You be the judge; the facts speak for themselves!


Joao Paulo

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PN, thanks for resending me the turn so promptly