21-09-2002 03:37									#1
	Peacekeepers, 2116-2124 Increase Your PM Length

2118 - Rover discovers mindworms
2120 - Rover killed by mindworms
2120 - U.N. Pizza Delivery founded
2121 - U.N. Pizza Delivery builds garrison
2121 - Mindworms that killed rover back off in other direction, away from UNPD
2123 - Scout hits pod, infested with mindworms
2124 - Scout killed by mindworms

Attendees:
MWIA
MrWIA ()
TKG
Kassiopeia
Darkness' Edge

This playing session wasn't a good one, and ended with both scouts dead at the hands of mindworms, which is why we've stopped earlier than we probably would have.

Attachment: lal of the peacekeepers, 2124.zip
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	21-09-2002 03:46									#2
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Yeah, we took quite a beating there. And there wasn't too much people there. Where did you disappear? We started a bit late since DEdge slept a bit too long. No matter, didn't affect the result too much.

DEdge> thanks
TKG^DoR>
Kass^DoSE> Ok, so it's 2116.
TKG^DoR> shall we begin?
Kass^DoSE> *nods*
* Kass^DoSE slaps MrWIA around a bit with a large trout
Kass^DoSE> Wakey wakey rise 'n shine
TKG^DoR> vlad's orders: http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&th
readid=62212
DEdge> it's up and running...let's go
Kass^DoSE> The poll isn't due yet but the majority seems big enough, so I
guess we can go with that?
TKG^DoR> New Apolyton
TKG^DoR> Worker 1: Nutrient tile (3/1/0)
TKG^DoR> Worker 2: Rolling/moist tile (1/1/0)
TKG^DoR> Worker 3: Mineral tile (0/3/0)
TKG^DoR> TBIBTU
TKG^DoR> Worker 1: Nutrient tile (3/0/0)
TKG^DoR> Worker 2: Rolling/moist river tile (1/1/1)
TKG^DoR> Worker 3: Any rolling/moist tile (1/1/0)
TKG^DoR> Base 3
TKG^DoR> Worker 1: Sea nutrient tile (4/0/0)
TKG^DoR> Worker 2: Any rolling/moist tile (1/1/0)
TKG^DoR> New Apolyton
DEdge> two days is enough, considering the constitution is about to be
changed to that, and this is something of an emergency...
TKG^DoR> Worker 1: Nutrient tile (3/1/0)
TKG^DoR> Worker 2: Rolling/moist tile (1/1/0)
DEdge> and it IS an official poll
TKG^DoR> Worker 3: Mineral tile (0/3/0)
TKG^DoR> TBIBTU
TKG^DoR> Worker 1: Nutrient tile (3/0/0)
TKG^DoR> Worker 2: Rolling/moist river tile (1/1/1)
TKG^DoR> Worker 3: Any rolling/moist tile (1/1/0)
TKG^DoR> Base 3
TKG^DoR> Worker 1: Sea nutrient tile (4/0/0)
TKG^DoR> Worker 2: Any rolling/moist tile (1/1/0)
TKG^DoR> New Apolyton
TKG^DoR> Worker 1: Nutrient tile (3/1/0)
TKG^DoR> Worker 2: Rolling/moist tile (1/1/0)
TKG^DoR> Worker 3: Mineral tile (0/3/0)
TKG^DoR> TBIBTU
TKG^DoR> Worker 1: Nutrient tile (3/0/0)
Kass^DoSE> Errrr?
TKG^DoR> Worker 2: Rolling/moist river tile (1/1/1)
TKG^DoR> Worker 3: Any rolling/moist tile (1/1/0)
TKG^DoR> Base 3
TKG^DoR> Worker 1: Sea nutrient tile (4/0/0)
TKG^DoR> Worker 2: Any rolling/moist tile (1/1/0)
TKG^DoR> New Apolyton
TKG^DoR> Worker 1: Nutrient tile (3/1/0)
TKG^DoR> Worker 2: Rolling/moist tile (1/1/0)
TKG^DoR> Worker 3: Mineral tile (0/3/0)
Kass^DoSE> FLOOD
TKG^DoR> TBIBTU
TKG^DoR> Worker 1: Nutrient tile (3/0/0)
TKG^DoR> Worker 2: Rolling/moist river tile (1/1/1)
Kass^DoSE>
TKG^DoR> Worker 3: Any rolling/moist tile (1/1/0)
MrWIA> Aaaawwww.....
TKG^DoR> Base 3
TKG^DoR> Worker 1: Sea nutrient tile (4/0/0)
MrWIA> IS this all we have!
TKG^DoR> Worker 2: Any rolling/moist tile (1/1/0)
TKG^DoR> i guess so
TKG^DoR> whoa? WTF
DEdge> erm, we have a problem...
TKG^DoR> sorry 'bout that....
TKG^DoR>
TKG^DoR> ahhhh!
-> *MrWIA* Oy, can you use the private msg function?
TKG^DoR> the dead walks!
Kass^DoSE> MrWIA is alive!
MrWIA> Ha ha.. I feel dead.
TKG^DoR> and why are there 2 of you?
DEdge> yay!!
DEdge> late night mwia?
MrWIA> Hold on - stargin SMAC
TKG^DoR> MWIA, you're not president here
DEdge> our rover just got splattered by mindworms
TKG^DoR>
DEdge> that affects things a bit...
TKG^DoR> noooooo lemmy will be mad
DEdge> oh well
DEdge> we can build him a new one soon, right mwia?
DEdge> that also could pose a security threat to U.N. Pizza Delivery, which
is about to be founded..
TKG^DoR> fu....dge
Kass^DoSE> Eep
MrWIA> you damn straight we can
DEdge> that was lucky
DEdge> UNPD founded, scout built, mindworms flee in other direction
DEdge> 12«11MWIA12» do you want to wait for next session to build a rover, or
slip it in somewhere now?
DEdge> argh i hate this client sometimes.... mwia - do you want to wait for
next session to build a rover, or slip it in somewhere now?
MrWIA> What are we cuilding right now?
MrWIA> *building
DEdge> TBIBTU - CP
DEdge> NA - Formers
MrWIA> Where's the save thread?
DEdge> UNPD - Formers
DEdge> save thread?
MrWIA> I ahhh, haven't directly looked at it yet
MrWIA> for 2116
MrWIA> nm - found it.
DEdge> geez, it's been so long since that session it's probably long buried
DEdge> ahhh good
DEdge> TKG? Kass?
Kass^DoSE> What?
DEdge> didn't know if you were still with us :P
Kass^DoSE> I'm here
* TKG^DoR wakes up
TKG^DoR> still here
Kass^DoSE> It's 1:15 in the morning but I'm still going strong
DEdge> perhaps we could change the CP in TBIBTU to rover?
TKG^DoR> gtg
* TKG^DoR has quit IRC
MrWIA> What are we building?
MrWIA> CP in TBIBTU and what in NA?
DEdge> 2124: Mindworms kill scout
DEdge> this isn't our day
DEdge> NA: Formers
MrWIA> Don't worry - we can't be blamed - the worms attacked, rigth?
DEdge> from a pod...
DEdge> perhaps we should consider terminating the session...
MrWIA> Which base is closest to the worm..?
DEdge> we now have two units that need replacing, somewhere...
DEdge> the worms that killed the rover disappeared, TBIBTU is closest to
the 2nd one
DEdge> you're the one with the experience...is that enough to stop a
game?
MrWIA> I would say, if we think we can handle it with an emergency
change in queue, we can keep going, BUT we need to look at the CoL to
make sure we don't HAVE to stop.
DEdge> we don't have a COL...just a constitution :P
DEdge> wrong game
MrWIA> CoL is easier to type.
MrWIA> I called the CoL a Constitution in the Civ3 games so I think I can
reverse it again here
Kass^DoSE> semantic nonsense
DEdge> lol..
MrWIA> Ultimate decision to stop or continue would be you though, DE. I
will support wholeheartedly whateverr you decide to do when you decide it.
Kass^DoSE> ditto
MrWIA> Wait a sec.
DEdge> yeah?
DEdge> i'm just going to find the constitution
MrWIA> Commissioner has the right of Acting as he deems fit if there is an
emergency
MrWIA> From the CoL
MrWIA> Over to you DE - no chance of impeachment for this...
Kass^DoSE> Go by the gut?
MrWIA> And quickpolls etc.
MrWIA> Someone tell me exactly what square the mindworm came from
and how many turns it has been?
MrWIA> Or as close to exactly as you can.
DEdge> the mindworm just killed the scout then
DEdge> as far as location goes...
DEdge> there's a depression in our north border, where the line goes
south a bit, then back to normal...see it?
DEdge> it's five squares north of that
MrWIA> So we are safe for the immediate moment.
DEdge> oh yes, that shouldn't be a problem...
DEdge> it's more getting our explorers back
MrWIA> So the only issue is the dead scout?
DEdge> dead scout AND dead rover
MrWIA> BOTH?!
MrWIA> How'd the rover go?
DEdge> same...mindworms appeared, killed it...
MrWIA> Sheee-it
Kass^DoSE>
DEdge> yeah :S
Kass^DoSE> Where's the DoPO when ye need 'im?
DEdge> i don't know whether he could help us that much
DEdge> they've just been appearing, killing our explorers, then
disappearing into the never-never
MrWIA> Um, as far as I am concerned, I have the power to order things to
be built - I authorise a change to whatever you deem necessary in TBIBTU -
how much resources will we lose?
Kass^DoSE> yea but he'd be the only one responsible
DEdge> lol
DEdge> change to scout patrol in TBIBTU?
MrWIA> What bout NA - how many res would we lose by changing to scout
- do we have any new techs? LOL - It would be nice to look at the save.
MrWIA> DE - how many res would we lose in both cases by changing?
DEdge> 8 minerals in TBIBTU
DEdge> 3 minerals in NA
MrWIA> Damn... but in desperate times, desperate measures.
DEdge> i think we should let the CP and former be built respectively...
DEdge> they're both almost done...
MrWIA> How many turns till they complete?
DEdge> colony pod - 4 turns
DEdge> formers - 2 turns
MrWIA> build formers first, I think.
DEdge> change colony pod?
MrWIA> We could rush them..?
MrWIA> I'll check the CoL again.
DEdge> i agree...
Kass^DoSE> how much dosh've we got?
DEdge> thanks
MrWIA> Technically it
DEdge> 64 :S
DEdge> technically it?
Kass^DoSE> 64 creds? *shurg* not bd
MrWIA> It's the DEI that orders rushing, but Commish acts :as he sees fit in
emergency"
DEdge> alright, this is too much for us to decide...
MrWIA> Can we rush both/either?
DEdge> i think this should go back to the people...
MrWIA> Just deciding options here...
Kass^DoSE> your call AFAIC
MrWIA> OK - Can you post/send the save then?
DEdge> we could, but i think the people should vote on course of action
MrWIA> Probably best idead, DE
DEdge> will do now
MrWIA> So that was a short chat then.
Kass^DoSE> O'
MrWIA> But I MADE IT!
DEdge> yay
Kass^DoSE> I'll scrounge up the log, then throw myself at the bed.

	21-09-2002 04:10									#3
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sorry guys i couldn't stay till the end...i'll post the screenshots soon

	21-09-2002 04:13									#4
	Put an end to popups!

sorry that i couldnt attend i will be there for the next one. maybe this weekend?

	21-09-2002 04:39									#5
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Screenshots:

New Apolyton:


ThisBaseIsBelongToUs:


UN Pizza Delivery


Northern Exploration:


Southern Exploration


Map and Who's Who Screen


Faction Dominance Chart


Research Progress


Map (zoomed out a bit)


F4 Screen


too bad about our scouts

	21-09-2002 14:09									#6
	Put an end to popups!

In the TBIBTU screen, the CP will be finished in four turns, while in the F4 screen, the CP will be finished in two turns. When will it be finished ?

	21-09-2002 14:50									#7
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Pande - I believe the reason for it is this:

notice in the TBIBTU base screen you see the second worker is working a one nut square. This can be better emploted working a river tile that gives an extra mineral and energy. This was pointed out before (once TBIBTU grew), and I suspect that the F4 screen may have been saved with this worker reallocation already made, whereas the Base csreen was saved beforehand. However, this change is not part of the save game, as when we noticed it it was the time we decided to stop.

I don't know for sure, but you can check it out - the save is available, you know.

	21-09-2002 14:58									#8
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Outstanding screenshot work, as ever, TKG.

	21-09-2002 14:59									#9
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Yeah, sure. But I got two computers, and SMAC is installed on the other computer. The one Im not using now.

	21-09-2002 16:04									#10
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ofcourse i am sorry for those brave men that died for the glory of our faction. but i see there efforts were not in vain. they have discovered a great area with very rainy tiles + an energy deposit. i hope we can colonize that area some time soon. but priority now goes to exploring the east!

	21-09-2002 18:35									#11
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Have our workers harvested those useless 1/2 nutrient tiles for ten years?? Or are those pics just taken on a non-representable moment?

	21-09-2002 19:21									#12
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quote: Originally posted by Maniac Have our workers harvested those useless 1/2 nutrient tiles for ten years?? Or are those pics just taken on a non-representable moment?

We've been having a few problems with the stupid AI resetting our worker placements whenever the base grows.

	23-09-2002 02:30									#13
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I find that if you accidentally double click a base, rather than single click it, the second click, if it is in the map area of the base screen, will be registered as a "move worker" command. I thought that the AI was moving things around in a multiplayer game I'm currently in but it just turned out to be me "clicking myself in the foot".

other than that - great work guys - though your battle luck seems to ... (how to put this mildly) ... suck.

	23-09-2002 03:33									#14
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quote: Originally posted by Echinda great work guys - though your battle luck seems to ... (how to put this mildly) ... suck.

"our" battle luck. Man oh Man!!! Our entire directorate is under-paid. :-)