23-09-2002 22:41									#1
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Anybody got a chat log from Friday's chat?

How was it? Normally there's a somewhat breathless rush to post interesting tidbits from the chat, but this time, nothing. Was it simply a rehash or did new and interesting info come out?

Catt

	24-09-2002 00:00									#2
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It was here at the Apolyton chat instead of the usual site because of some technical dificulties so I'm not sure if there will be a log.

Heres a few things that were mentioned:
the stats of the new units - theres a thread
There will be no new civ traits
the firaxians like expansionist civs for MP
They were deathly quiet about my "in depth" question about the box
that there wont be auto-stacked arty firing but there will be some improvement over 1.29 (that I missed the specifics of)
HappySunshine turned up and made a few stupid comments but nobody bit
there will possibly be further expansions with more civs

	24-09-2002 00:10									#3
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The each arty and air unit can be told to keep attacking the same tile.

In addtion a "stack attack" feature was implemented "by accident"

	24-09-2002 00:15									#4
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I thought I saw MB 'clearly' say no stacked arty attack - ie each arty unit can be told to do that but not a stack of units. I missed the bit about the stack attack accident.

	24-09-2002 01:20									#5
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XOR kept a log of the IRC chat, and MarkG has one of the forum chat. They need to be integrated...

IIRC, the new autobombard thing is that for any given unit, you can set it to keep bombarding the same tile until something "friendly" is there, or until you stop the bombardment.

There is no stack *command* to do this (which, I think, is what we really wanted).

My guess is that the "accident" is that this results in stack *attacks* at the beginning of each turn.

The chat was pretty messy and painful, and there weren't many people involved, but the Firaxians were helpful.

	24-09-2002 01:29									#6
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Well new addons is not a bad thing, but I would say that it was a given. Any mention of fixing some of the items in the 129f bug list or usabilityas part of those expansion packs?

	24-09-2002 01:40									#7
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I foget what exactly, but at least 1-2 bugs were specifically identified as fixed.

	24-09-2002 01:48									#8
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The accidental attack was when they told a stack of combat units (not arty, tanks etc.) to do a stack move onto an enemy tile.

	24-09-2002 18:03									#9
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I was at half of the chat, and at the end(actually, a few minutes after most people had left), we was informed that not one, not two, but three people had made a log! So yes, I think we'll get a chat log in a way or another.

	02-10-2002 04:26									#10
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Did I miss it (the log)? Anybody going to post a chat log, or has the secret of the universe according to Firaxis vanished, lost to posterity for want of a log?

Catt

	02-10-2002 11:03									#11
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Arghhh, I've read the whole thread supposing that there was a chat this Friday (27 sept).

Nevertheless, what I'll miss the most from PTW is the stack-bombard command. That would have been helpful. Maybe in a future patch?