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How should we aquire Theology
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| through peace with Persia now. |
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3.33% |
| through peace with Persia after Pyramids. |
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16.67% |
| buy it now. |
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30.00% |
| buy it from Greece when dyes renegotiated |
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33.33% |
| trade Chivalry for it to France/Baby when they get it |
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6.67% |
| wait 12 turns and learn it on our own |
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10.00% |
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GePap
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of the Big Apple
Nov 2001
time: 23:22
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If the to-buy option wins, then we certainly can't spy on anyone- and if we spy on anyone, the cost of that operation might mean we can't buy it.
We have to make a choice- what do we want more- all of the Persian homeland? or The pyramids and the chapel? I would say, hake Persepolis, make peace, get both, Take America- wait 20 turns, take the rest of Persia's homeland. It is not written in stone (If it is, someone point me to the requisite poll) that we must, in this campaign, secure the entire Persian homeland- we can get insence from Chicago, and the Chapel is worth more then 3 spice, for now, specially without the markets to give our own cities a worthwhile happiness boost (spices are more widely distirbuted than insence- so the market for them wil be much weaker).
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UnOrthOdOx
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Hello....
Jun 2002
time: 22:22
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quote:
Originally posted by GePap
If the to-buy option wins, then we certainly can't spy on anyone- and if we spy on anyone, the cost of that operation might mean we can't buy it.
We have to make a choice- what do we want more- all of the Persian homeland? or The pyramids and the chapel? I would say, hake Persepolis, make peace, get both, Take America- wait 20 turns, take the rest of Persia's homeland. It is not written in stone (If it is, someone point me to the requisite poll) that we must, in this campaign, secure the entire Persian homeland- we can get insence from Chicago, and the Chapel is worth more then 3 spice, for now, specially without the markets to give our own cities a worthwhile happiness boost (spices are more widely distirbuted than insence- so the market for them wil be much weaker). |
I agree with you, somewhat, but would like to point out this:
We cannot simply take the Pyramids and make peace. They will flip right back because the capitol is likely to flip right next door. We must take all 4 cities down in that little penninsula to ensure we can keep the Pyramids. That will take TOO long. We must either choose Peace NOW for 20 turns, or to take the Pyramids, and the four other cities. Unless you have some plan for prevention of flipping?
We were discussing renegotiating peace with America once upon a time... If we did that, we cannot go attack them for another 20.
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GePap
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of the Big Apple
Nov 2001
time: 23:22
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What i meant Ghengis, is that we can take Persepolis, make peace, demand theology, and get both the Pyramids and the Chapel (UnOrthO: I on't see why Perseoplis flipping is such a given- Persepolis is the Persians main culture city, we have far more culture than Persia, and if we put a big enough army to crush dissent, then begin to starve and rush a temple, then a lib or cathedral,we could keep it). We don't know how long until others get the chapel- I don't know if we currently have the money needed to buy it outright, so if we really want the chapel, getting it from persia is the quickest way, but I would not support a peace with persia until we got the pyramids. Convoluted, but that it.
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Aggie
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Of GOW's half of BOB
Jun 2002
time: 23:22
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A major cause of flip is previous culture and # squares in radius in enemy territory and # foreign people, now we could perhaps starve it and garrison enough to prevent flip, lets face it a size 1 city might not flip especially one like persopolis since it would grow very very quickly and soon our people would outnumber the persians, at the very least we would need to buy temple there. For the record the war with persia will be over in about 15 turns if my estimates are correct. Of course if we have a serious setback at persolpolis we can just make peace and come back in 20 turns and finish them off. I wouldn't mind if we took susa and bactra though,perhaps I will send all forces there and forgo the northern assault until another time, lest face it, with knights the northern city are just 2 more turns away.
HEY I am editing this to mention an idea, how about I send a secondary force of knights(2 at least depending on production), then we could have those forces to help attack persopolis but they could also if not needed rush toward incense.
Aggie
Last edited by Aggie on 25-09-2002 at 00:03
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Togas
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California
Jun 2002
time: 21:22
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I wanted to post the following report from E_T, who has been working on this difficult dilema for The Ministry.
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Moscow had 7 pop when it started and built to 8, Rome & Sparta had smaller populations and built up to where they are now. They are started 4 turns after Moscow. Berlin was relatively small, but 4 of it's squares are irrigated flood plain, so they have about as much now as moscow started out with, they also started after Rome & Sparta. Nottingham shouldn't even be trying for a Wonder, it's pathetic at size 6 with little real production and they started after Berlin. If Berlin was the size then as it is now, my bet would be with them, but Moscow had the head start (32 turns total) and the higher overall production through out.
Also, If we cut the Persian Trade route, Berlins production will fall behind. My book is on Moscow and may the Banana help me if I'm wrong.
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We're going with the embassy and, hopefully, it will give us some productive information.
--Togas
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