24-09-2002 09:06									#1
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What the HELL is wrong with kurt warner tonight?!
He's throwing some GREAT passes, to the wrong team! Argh! The rams almost came back late in the 4th quarter, until this guy throws yet ANOTHER interception for a tampa bay touch down. games over folks. dammit.

	24-09-2002 09:09									#2
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Face it... the Rams just don't have it this year. Warner has been taking a beating so far this year. The protection isn't there. He is now throwing off balance, and just getting rid of the ball. He doesn'thave the time he had the last two years. 0 - 3... they could still make the playoffs, but it's going to be REALLY TOUGH.

	24-09-2002 09:10									#3
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I think warner's a great quarterback, really, he just needs a BIT more help from his offensive line. geez. . .

	24-09-2002 09:11									#4
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That's what I said

	24-09-2002 09:11									#5
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and the game ends with another qb sack. see what i mean?

yeah i know. i was just ranting myself, not really paying attention.

Anyway, i don't really care for the rams a whole lot, i just wanted them to beat tampa bay.

	24-09-2002 09:12									#6
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Martz needs to go. Unfortunately he probably can't be demoted to O coordinator.

The offense begins and ends with Marshall.

Apparently ends is the operative word.

	24-09-2002 09:12									#7
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And Madden just said the exact same thing I said a few minutes ago. Warner is getting hammered...

	24-09-2002 09:15									#8
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I could have won the the office money pool if...

St Louis won and less than 37 points were scored.

Of if Tampa had won and less than 30 points were scored.

Needless to say, I'm not happy... and it looked SO good there for awhile...

	24-09-2002 09:32									#9
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I had arough week, 6 in poly league, 7 at work, but I did have Tampa.

After the Giant game I knew the Rams wern't the same.

Seems I also won my sandbox game also.

Hey, what was Keyshaw all worked up about?

I was playing civ and had the sound off.

	24-09-2002 09:33									#10
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Tampa Bay should have lost. They're definitely not a better team, I don't care what anyone says. Although traditionally I am a Bucs fan, I'm more disappointed with the Rams disrupting the reality of things.

	24-09-2002 09:34									#11
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Chris, he wanted the ball, and they wouldn't give it to him around the end.

	24-09-2002 09:49									#12
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You know, several weeks ago when I picked Kurt Warner as the first overall pick in my fantasy league draft, I felt very, very good about the number of TD passes I was going to get every week.

Little did I know they would be going the other direction.

He better put up insane numbers next week against Dallas, because if he doesn't, I'm dropping him and picking up Jim Miller. Yeah, that's right, I said Jim Miller.

Oh, and take my advice: never play in a scoring-only fantasy league. I never will again.

Dan
(Maybe he didn't eat his Chunky soup this year?)

	24-09-2002 09:55									#13
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Hooray! With the Buc's win, I managed to pull off a 14-0 weekend with my picks over at espn.com! Now I just have to wait until tomorrow to see if my tiebreaker score of 9 (I picked the MNF score to be 24-21)wins me the weekly prize. It feels kind of weird, but I can root for the Bucs now that they're out of the NFC Central.

	24-09-2002 09:58									#14
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quote: Originally posted by ixnay37 Hooray! With the Buc's win, I managed to pull off a 14-0 weekend with my picks over at espn.com! Now I just have to wait until tomorrow to see if my tiebreaker score of 9 (I picked the MNF score to be 24-21)wins me the weekly prize. It feels kind of weird, but I can root for the Bucs now that they're out of the NFC Central.

Congrats... and I feel the same way. or I should say, It doesn't bother me when they win now

	24-09-2002 11:11									#15
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I think that Eric Crouch's retirement hurt the Rams more than they let on...

On a serious note, does anyone know how bad Faulk got hurt tonight? If the Rams lose him for any length of time, then they're done for.

	24-09-2002 11:35									#16
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He was definitely up and about the sidelines. He's having any MRI when the team gets back to St. Louis. I think he'll play next week myself, but I'm not really one to say.

	24-09-2002 11:39									#17
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The real question is... will he be 100% or 50%

There seems to be some "discussion" on how much he touches the ball. The rams have run the horse into the ground. Defenses know... They need to use their other options of Offense. Once the Rams prove that he is not 100% of their offense, he will then be able to contribute like he used to. When the entire defense is keying on the guy, it doesn't work.

	24-09-2002 17:43									#18
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Whoever says that the St. Louis Rams are a better team than the Tampa Bay Buccaneers now is speaking sacrilege and will be hung out to gaol. Simply put, Tampa handed the Rams their asses on fine china yesterday and it was great to see.

That team doesn't revolve around Marshall... far from it. Kurt Warner's hurt, no one will admit it. He's got no protection whatsoever for his blind side - John St. Clair doesn't cut it, and he needs so much help that the rest of the line gets dragged down with him. (Teams will continue to move their star ends and tackles over onto his side - just watch.) And their defense has no leader (because they let Fletcher go to Buffalo in the offseason) and Jamie Duncan just can't fill the former leader's shoes. And now with Marshall hurt, it's only to get worse.

Not that I mind, of course.

And after a horrible start in the pool, I win the last four games to break even for the week, and this win makes it all the more satisfying...

quote: Originally posted by Dan Magaha FIRAXIS (Maybe he didn't eat his Chunky soup this year?)

	24-09-2002 18:12									#19
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I'm happy I didn't (couldn't as well) draft Kurt Warner in my Fantasy Football team. I'm very content at the moment with Brady and Fiedler

	24-09-2002 18:18									#20
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quote: Originally posted by Dan Magaha FIRAXIS Oh, and take my advice: never play in a scoring-only fantasy league. I never will again.

I know how you feel... I had a choice of taking Warner or Garcia... AND EVERY OTHER STINKING QB in the league, and Choose Garcia because under our scoring system, nobody was better than he was last year.

Well so far, he has been as bad as Warner. He also got 0 points this week for me as I lost by two or three points. If I had played Couch instead....

ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

	24-09-2002 18:37									#21
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Last I looked Ming we were tied going into last nights game, the usual revising of scoring at Sandbox. I still had Wistrom on D but I don't recall his name being called last night. I think I had you in the tie breaker but won't know until the Free period at Sandbox comes up.

And Favre is still on the table.

	24-09-2002 18:41									#22
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quote: Originally posted by walruskkkch Last I looked Ming we were tied going into last nights game, the usual revising of scoring at Sandbox. I still had Wistrom on D but I don't recall his name being called last night. I think I had you in the tie breaker but won't know until the Free period at Sandbox comes up. And Favre is still on the table.

Couch looked pretty good on Sunday... but what did you want again for Farve...

Yeah, I noticed that we were indeed tied going into last nights game. But I also checked much later and one of your guys had picked up a few points. But knowing the Sandbox scoring accuracy... I'll also be checking in once prime time is over.

But congrats... I'll just have to win the next game against you

	24-09-2002 18:51									#23
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I want a top line RB for Favre. Although, after Sunday's performance I may have to reconsider.

	24-09-2002 19:11									#24
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quote: Originally posted by Ming I know how you feel... I had a choice of taking Warner or Garcia... AND EVERY OTHER STINKING QB in the league, and Choose Garcia because under our scoring system, nobody was better than he was last year. Well so far, he has been as bad as Warner. He also got 0 points this week for me as I lost by two or three points. If I had played Couch instead.... ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Some of the QB's who have scored more points than Kurt Warner in my league:

-- Johnson, Brad
-- McMahon, Mike
-- Carr, David
-- Carter, Quincy
-- Harrington, Joey
-- Hasselbeck, Matt
-- Collins, Kerry

QB's who are threatening to overtake Kurt Warner in points next week if Kurt doesn't wake up against the pitiful Cowboys:

-- Dilfer, Trent
-- Frerotte, Gus (demoted to 3rd string, no less)

QB who would be ahead of Kurt Warner in points if he didn't have a bye last week:

-- Redman, Chris





Dan

	24-09-2002 19:18									#25
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OUCH



Dan... wouldn't it have been easier to just list the starting QB's who DIDN'T have more points than Warner so far

	24-09-2002 19:22									#26
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Johnny Unitas.

	24-09-2002 20:11									#27
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Reismark:

11-6

Regular season victories are nice for your Tampa Bay team, aren't they.




(granted, a regular season victory would be nice for the Rams right about now )




edit: removed quote I decided not to discuss

	24-09-2002 20:45									#28
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quote: Originally posted by asleepathewheel 11-6

Would have been 11-13 and Tampa in the big game if not for the fascist refs

Each time the Rams lose to Tampa is more proof that the Bucs should have been there, not the Rams. Period.

	24-09-2002 20:54									#29
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quote: Originally posted by reismark if not for the fascist refs

It is nice to see somebody else being called a fascist in the OTF for a change

	24-09-2002 20:56									#30
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Actually the refs are just trying to level the playing field, call 'em commies.