27-09-2002 10:18									#1
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We've got an exciting 4-way race for the presidency this term. Your choices for candidates:

Darkness' Edge
Hydey
Cavebear
atawa

You can check out their campaign promises here.

You have until the end of the month to vote.

	27-09-2002 10:55									#2
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I say stay the course. Hydey has done an excellent job, and we can expect him to continue doing so.

	27-09-2002 15:48									#3
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Vote for hydey

I am the neatest correct entry.

	27-09-2002 16:31									#4
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What a difficult choice :
- the present president, who runs the game quickly luckly and effectively
- a former good president in the first demogame
- two active members of the Cabinet

At the end, I am for an alternation, by allowing a new one (having experience however ) to take his turn.
That does not mean the former prez have demerity!

	27-09-2002 17:09									#5
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quote: Originally posted by JCP At the end, I am for an alternation, by allowing a new one (having experience however ) to take his turn. That does not mean the former prez have demerity!

Thanks for the vote of confidence, JCP. I appreciate the chance to prove myself.

	27-09-2002 17:35									#6
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Two proven leaders, two loyal cabinet memebers. This one's gonna take some thought...

	27-09-2002 17:38									#7
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hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm....... tought.....

	27-09-2002 17:42									#8
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Iny-Miny-moe-catch-are-tirger-by-the-toe-if-he-hollows-let-him-go-Iny-Miny-moe-My-mother-toll-me-to-pick-the-best-one-and-your-not-it! Hydey!

Iny-Miny-moe-catch-are-tirger-by-the-toe-if-he-hollows-let-him-go-Iny-Miny-moe-My-mother-toll-me-to-pick-the-best-one-and-your-not-it! atawa!

Iny-Miny-moe-catch-are-tirger-by-the-toe-if-he-hollows-let-him-go-Iny-Miny-moe-My-mother-toll-me-to-pick-the-best-one-and-your-not-it! Cavebear!

So, I'll vote for my VP, DE.

	27-09-2002 17:43									#9
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wait, I'm just going to think on it.....

	27-09-2002 17:44									#10
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Question: What is the process if there is a tie. A run off? Pistols at ten paces? Or do we give teh sacred Banana the job?

	27-09-2002 17:54									#11
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quote: Originally posted by atomant Question: What is the process if there is a tie. A run off? Pistols at ten paces? Or do we give teh sacred Banana the job?

It'd surely have to be a runoff.

	27-09-2002 17:55									#12
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Unfortunately, our wise men have not yet discovered gunpowder, and the sacred Banana doesn't own a copy of MGE and thus is qualified only as a figurehead leader.

1. Winner must have a plurality (50 % or more of total vote).

2. If no plurality or a tie, top 2 candidates (or all tied candidates) will have a 3-day runoff election.

	27-09-2002 17:58									#13
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Perhaps the Current president should name those ministers who failed in their duties this month and did not submit reports or even post polls.

Then they might not get so many votes.

	27-09-2002 18:19									#14
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OK. i've thought it over and have voted.

-Jrabbit formally endorses the man who led us out of dire circumstances, to the top of the PowerGraph.

I say, if he wants to hang around, we owe it to ourselves to take advantage of it. I say,

VOTE KING HYDEY

	27-09-2002 18:40									#15
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quote: Originally posted by -Jrabbit 1. Winner must have a plurality (50 % or more of total vote). 2. If no plurality or a tie, top 2 candidates (or all tied candidates) will have a 3-day runoff election.

where did you find these rules?

	27-09-2002 18:47									#16
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Discussed in previous C2DG. (I made up the part about the runoff being 3 days.)

All this is IIRC, so speak up if you feel otherwise. I do think it's important to know what we'll do before any "situation" occurs, and thus my post.

	27-09-2002 19:17									#17
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quote: Originally posted by -Jrabbit 1. Winner must have a plurality (50 % or more of total vote). 2. If no plurality or a tie, top 2 candidates (or all tied candidates) will have a 3-day runoff election.

If we go with the plurality rule, we're inevitably going to have a repoll which isn't necessary. Of course, in the case of a tie, we would, but otherwise.

If any of my opponents finish with any majority, I'll concede defeat - there's no need to complicate things.

	27-09-2002 19:30									#18
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quote: Originally posted by Hydey Perhaps the Current president should name those ministers who failed in their duties this month and did not submit reports or even post polls. Then they might not get so many votes.

One thing I can promise is that, regardless of the result here - 1st, 2nd, 3rd, or 4th, I will accept the result gracefully, and not resort to sniping at my fellow candidates.

It's no secret that I've had a tough time as City Planner last term - it's an area of Civ I didn't have much knowledge of (as I realised not that long ago), and though I tried to get discussion going on the subjects, when you don't have the knowledge of the area, it makes it difficult. Running for City Planner was a mistake, which I've acknowledged in a couple of threads already.

President, on the other hand, is a place I do have the experience. I have a term as Commissioner of the SMAC demo game behind me, and I also served under John as Vice-President. I know this is a job I can do, do well, and do gracefully. I hope the voters will have confidence that I can lead them through these challenging times and into a republic.

	27-09-2002 19:35									#19
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quote: Originally posted by Darkness' Edge If we go with the plurality rule, we're inevitably going to have a repoll which isn't necessary. Of course, in the case of a tie, we would, but otherwise. If any of my opponents finish with any majority, I'll concede defeat - there's no need to complicate things.

Uhhh... If any of your opponents gets a majority, the only mathematical possibility is conceding defeat.

This is a democracy game, and it seems basic that the MAJORITY should rule. No majority, no ruler.

	27-09-2002 19:45									#20
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Vote 1 Hydey for President.

At least he doesn't know where Iraq is.

	27-09-2002 19:54									#21
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quote: Originally posted by -Jrabbit Uhhh... If any of your opponents gets a majority, the only mathematical possibility is conceding defeat. This is a democracy game, and it seems basic that the MAJORITY should rule. No majority, no ruler.

i think he means if one of his opponents recieves more votes than him, he'll concede, even if his opponent does not recieve at least 50% of the votes. Unlike a certain US presidential election

	27-09-2002 20:25									#22
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quote: Originally posted by Hydey Perhaps the Current president should name those ministers who failed in their duties this month...

I see that nobody forgot to sharpen his knife!

	27-09-2002 21:42									#23
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Why am I in this election

Thought I posted that I wouldnt run for anything this month

	27-09-2002 22:31									#24
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A vote for atawa is a vote for short-term memory loss.

	27-09-2002 23:11									#25
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he did declare his canidacy though

	27-09-2002 23:42									#26
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I'm not used to 11 hour drinking sessions anymore

	28-09-2002 01:45									#27
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cavebear! cavebear! The greatest leader of Old Apolytonia has returned to reclaim his throne!

	28-09-2002 02:34									#28
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Cave bear you make an excellent pres, you devotion to the people and your skill in the game have been proven time and time again.

Heyday, what can i say you have a style all your own and it works to your advantage. I think your leadership has done many great things and will continually benefit this game thru out.

Haveing said that I now vote for........
Darkness' Edge. I think he has the skill and the knowledge to lead us in the right direction, He needs the chance to prove it to us all. In this way all can benefit from the "fresh ideas" of a new candidate while we still have the wise direction of two great leaders. (voteing and polling as citizens or members of the cabinet of course )

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	28-09-2002 02:35									#29
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Just for electoral clarity (there are advantages having a Government & Politics degree)...

Plurality is simply having the most votes among 3 or more candidates. Majority is having more than 50% of the votes regardless of the number of candidates.

	28-09-2002 04:36									#30
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Hydey checks the polls



Atleast I will not have to check the democracy game threads now I know the people do not want me to be involved.