30-09-2002 00:18									#1
	D of I&E: Rushbuilding? Got spare money?

Before organizing a poll I'd like to hear some opinions. I'm wondering whether we should rushbuild the formers and/or CP currently build in our bases. Also I would like to know your opinion about whether or not we should rush the first unit built in any newfounded base.

Facts:

Energy Reserves: 82 ec

New Apolyton: Colony Pod: 22/30
ThisBaseIsBelongToUs: Formers: 12/20
U.N. Pizza Delivery: Formers: 12/20

They all take 19 ec to finish.

Former/?/CP/Scout patrol/CP/Scout Patrol is the general build queue if I'm not mistaken. I can't remember if it has been polled, but there was a lot of support for the suggestion. So should we hurry the formers provided we get 10 free minerals with each new base? "?" stood for a second former, a scout unit, or a recycling tanks.

Discuss and provide arguments!

	30-09-2002 01:58									#2
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how much will it all cost? (i am to lazy to start up the game myself now going to bed early ) we havent got that much credits and i want to hold some money back for rushbuilding garrisons in case of wormattacks

	30-09-2002 02:24									#3
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I am also too lazy to start it up right now. Though I'll give you a wild guess : I think it's 19 ec if we hurry something now. For later rushbuilds, since we have a 0 Industry rating, it would cost us 25 ec to hurry a former right after founding a base.

How much credits would you like to keep in reserve at all time?

	30-09-2002 10:35									#4
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I say we rush the two formers. We need them up and running as soon as possible, and it won't be that expensive.

	30-09-2002 13:23									#5
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Rush the pod !!! All nutrients gathered at New Apolyton are useless since we'll lose one citizen and get it back right after we built the pod ! Lets save all these special ressources by rushing the pod !

	30-09-2002 14:05									#6
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	30-09-2002 17:04									#7
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My my, four different posters, four different opinions. Poll is coming up!

	30-09-2002 17:05									#8
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I don't know if you were going to do this or not, but a good way to save money when buying stuff is to spend just enough money so that it has 1 turn left (eg if it has 4 turns to go & it says it will take 40 energy credits to complete it, just pay 30 energy credits & it will be built the next turn)

	30-09-2002 17:13									#9
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That's easy with facilities because they always cost 2 energy per mineral. But with units it are completely different rules leading to unknown fractional numbers. That makes it hard to hurry units efficiently. Anyway, if people support Gnool's suggestion, speak up and I'll do some testing with the save file.

	30-09-2002 18:25									#10
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maniac I say rush them all but i want to have around 45credits for any rushing of garrisons this early in the game.

	30-09-2002 18:32									#11
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quote: Originally posted by Gnool I don't know if you were going to do this or not, but a good way to save money when buying stuff is to spend just enough money so that it has 1 turn left (eg if it has 4 turns to go & it says it will take 40 energy credits to complete it, just pay 30 energy credits & it will be built the next turn)

I actually considerer that a cheat, rather than a feature, but this has to be polled since it hasnt been vote in the opening fo the game, when we choose which exploits/features we would allow.

	30-09-2002 18:37									#12
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why is this a feature or a cheat you just make a partial payment to help you build something....

	30-09-2002 19:01									#13
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The figures:
If we change the UNPD workers to provide us with 4 Megatons of minerals this year, we can finish the former with 10 credits. If we adapt the TBIBTU workers and keep the current NA placement for one more turn before switching to the rocky minerals, they produce 3 mineral units each and we have to pay 13 ec to finish them.

82 - 36 = 46 ec, enough to rush a scout when necessary

	30-09-2002 19:28									#14
	Increase the size of your Attachments

great i only dont understand NA we have to keep it one turn as it is now and one turn with a change?

	30-09-2002 19:45									#15
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I'll of course organize a poll for the old bases' worker placement, but personally I'd like to keep the NA worker placement Freshwater nutrients, Rolling moist nutrients and forest until the colony pod is constructed. Then I would switch the forest worker to the rocky minerals.

	30-09-2002 23:19									#16
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DeathByTheSword proposed to hurry a Scout Patrol built after the CP in New Apolyton. Rushing it would complete it in MY 2140 for 50 ec. Not rushing it would complete the Patrol in MY 2142. What do you think? If someone else supports this proposal, I'll start a poll.

	30-09-2002 23:52									#17
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I would support that if it means Panama gets built earlier. Also, I want that E-SE scout to keep heading out that way.

	01-10-2002 02:23									#18
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That canal base will still get built at the same time. Not rushing it would just leave New Apolyton without a garrison for 3 years. IMHO this isn't worth 50 ec.

	02-10-2002 00:38									#19
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I see. How's the food situation in NA? Any chance of drone riots when we send the local police away?

Oh, forgot this is Thinker. Nevermind.