03-10-2002 02:02									#31
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Believe it or not, students don't have much money, so they are not going to waste it on tips. I would rarely tip as a student.

	03-10-2002 02:11									#32
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If I didn't have enough money for a tip, I wouldn't go out to eat in a resteraunt.

	03-10-2002 02:24									#33
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Even when I was at my poorest, I would always tip. If you can't tip, don't go to a restaurant or a bar.

	03-10-2002 02:26									#34
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See, you have a completely different mentality to tipping.

Besides, do you tip in a McDonalds or other such fast food chains?

	03-10-2002 02:28									#35
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quote: If I didn't have enough money for a tip, I wouldn't go out to eat in a resteraunt.

Here students are great tippers. But, then again, I go to baylor And my favorite is when Black people compliment me on my service and then don't leave a tip

	03-10-2002 02:32									#36
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Provost,

McDonald's and fast food chains don't wait on you. You wait on them.

	03-10-2002 02:33									#38
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My wage when waiting was $2.25 an hour. Waitstaff depend on tips to make their living.

	03-10-2002 02:35									#39
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touche...point moses

	03-10-2002 03:19									#40
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Anectdotal evidence only. I see nothing to make me believe Kaak's and Che's experiences can be extended to a general rule.

	03-10-2002 03:32									#41
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The world is one giant ****ing anecdote.

	03-10-2002 04:29									#42
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Tipping is a great form of income redistribution,

tip big
tip cash

and don't make a mess.


According to my waitstaff friends here, there is no noticable difference between different ethnicities, or ages.

	03-10-2002 05:02									#43
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quote: Originally posted by monolith94 She was probably 29 (I'm 18) but she was still good looking and seemed like a nice person

You know, in a thread that is about the tipping habits of various classes and races of people, this is likely the most stupidly offensive thing written. "Still good looking..." Sheesh!

Anyway, let me join in the carnage with my list of types of people who are lousy tippers:

1. Teenagers and College kids. Caveat: Unless they are on the first date, a Valentines Day date, or on the date where they are going to ask the girl to marry him. Otherwise, y'all suck major arse.

2. Old people. "Here sonny, I've got something for you" she says as she hands me a nice shiny quarter.

3. Everybody else.

And yes, we upper middle-class white guys are major butt-wipes when it comes to retailing: we know what we want, we don't want to be bothered with the stupid patter about your wonderful warranty plans, and we don't have the time to waste looking around for all the extras. Deal with it.

	03-10-2002 05:06									#44
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quote: She was probably 29 (I'm 18) but she was still good looking and seemed like a nice person…

Well obviously. There's no reason whatsoever why 29-year-old people wouldn't be good looking.

	03-10-2002 05:07									#45
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Oh, JohnT got there first...

	03-10-2002 05:10									#46
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I always leave a good tip for good service. For average service, just double the GST. For exceptional service, more.

	03-10-2002 05:55									#47
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If somebody does a lousy job, they get nothing. You make $2.25 an hour waiting tables, it's YOUR job to give me good service. It's not my job to pay your wages.

But, I will for good service.

	03-10-2002 06:13									#48
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It's not that people 29+ are BAD looking, exactly… They're just more mature looking so I typically wouldn't hit on anyone over 25… I'm just saying I guess… I don't know I guess she just looked.

Ok she was really pretty. I made an exception.
Don't be mad with me JohnT…

	03-10-2002 06:21									#49
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quote: It's not that people 29+ are BAD looking, exactly… They're just more mature

keep digging...

	03-10-2002 07:38									#50
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Glad I live in Australia, where wages are decent and tipping is an "if you feel like it" proposition.

	03-10-2002 07:40									#51
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quote: Originally posted by Skanky Burns Glad I live in Australia, where wages are decent and tipping is an "if you feel like it" proposition.

That's good if you work in the service industry, bad if you're just a regular customer.

Service quality is what these people get paid for. Crappy service, crappy pay -- good service, good pay. It's a simple concept, if some people weren't so stingy, and realize that if no one tipped then everyone would end up paying more for food anyway. So do your part, tip the damn waiter.

It works well in countries like Canada, where people are generally very considerate and generous.

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quote: And yes, we upper middle-class white guys are major butt-wipes when it comes to retailing: we know what we want, we don't want to be bothered with the stupid patter about your wonderful warranty plans, and we don't have the time to waste looking around for all the extras. Deal with it.

Oh, I'm just saying...doesn't upset me personally, as I am (or at least will be) classified as a middle-upper class white. You people just make it hard for me to look good in front of the managers, that's all

	03-10-2002 08:14									#53
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Why I bet that in the right context gray hair can even be… sexy?

	03-10-2002 08:38									#54
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Food is cheap enough and if service is bad, people just stop going to the resteraunt. Simple enough.

	03-10-2002 09:03									#55
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I'm a starving student but I still tip ALWAYS 15% usually closer to 20%. Working in a restaurant for years'll do that to you...
Also what goes around comes around when you have a favorite restaurant or two (Thai Garden's and Mamoun's Falafels) being a good customer will get you a lot better service (and even food!) after hanging out there for years than being a cheap bastard.

	03-10-2002 09:26									#56
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The squirrel is right. Did I just say that? At my favorite restaurants, since I'm a good customer, I will receive special dishes from the kitchen regularly. I don't care how many times I go to McD's, I never get anything special. In fact, I consider myself lucky if the food is hot.

	03-10-2002 10:18									#57
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quote: Originally posted by Skanky Burns Glad I live in Australia, where wages are decent and tipping is an "if you feel like it" proposition.

Ya - same here

I remember a time in Australia when people would get offended if you offered them a tip. Still happens sometimes. They do a good job because it is their job, they aren't your slave.

Tipping is a nightmare if you come from a country where it isn't expected because workers have pride and get decent wages.

	03-10-2002 10:27									#58
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Also always always always tip in cash, that way the waiters don't have to pay taxes on it and it counts as more money. Not that I'm condoning tax evasion , but you might as well get as much bang for your tipping buck as possible.

	03-10-2002 10:29									#59
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They should be declaring tips as income anyway, right?

Don't you love when the government gets more money too?

	03-10-2002 10:35									#60
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Its funny, and sometimes not so funny, watching American tourists try to boss around Australian waiters. The golden rule here is be polite to the serving staff and talk to them like equals.

I've seen bossy Americans completely ignored, even come close to having a bowl of food tipped over their head or worse. The Australian customers would join the waiters in ejecting a rude demanding customer. They think staff here work for tips - they don't.