03-10-2002 21:54									#31
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quote: Originally posted by The Mad Monk Have you solved the 'more moderators than posters' problem yet?

	03-10-2002 22:26									#32
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quote: Originally posted by MosesPresley Salon, CNN, to name just two. There are many more, you need to look around. I like this one, because I am finally starting to figure out who's who. Although I don't like how the moderators inject themselves into every conversation. EDIT: Certain posters seem to think their word is gold, no matter what their opinion is.

Except for the owners of the site the Moderators all started as posters just like the rest of us. What do you have against them expressing their oppinions?

	03-10-2002 22:29									#33
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It's not like they ban people just for disagreeing with them (unlike on certain other forums...)

	03-10-2002 22:36									#34
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Ethelred's words are Gold.

Mine, on the other hand, are 'Tomato'....

	03-10-2002 23:07									#35
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You just can't fight the clique, so I won't.

	03-10-2002 23:11									#36
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quote: Originally posted by Asher Slashdot is, by and large, a circle jerk for Linux zealots with the odd rational person posting.

Except that the majority of them seem to still use Windows (well, except if someone decided to play with the poll booth...) . I remember the place being criticized in more strictly technical circles for having too many members who don't use Linux...

(now the head moderators are an entirely different thing, but they do get their fair share of criticism)

	03-10-2002 23:24									#37
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quote: Originally posted by MosesPresley You just can't fight the clique, so I won't.

A sense of humor is always helpfull in an online discussion. Fighting is less needed that way.

I fight back all the time. Supporting evidence and examples help. For instance you didn't aswer the question. What is it you don't like about the moderators expressing their oppinions? Without some sort of reason it looks like sour grapes.

Around here the mods have to be able to restrain their tempers. Apparently in some other forums that is not always the case. So considering the mods have to behave themselves I find it reasonable to be extra polite to them. Its just not fair to poke at them when they aren't allowed to fight back except with bans and such.

They don't like flames anyway. Wimps. I like flame wars but its not allowed here. I think I am losing my edge.

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Ethelred, you are one of the smarter ones around here, and I don't mean that to be condescending, because I am certainly not the smartest or the most educated one here. I still don't know who claims that title yet. My problem with the moderators giving their opinions constantly is that by virtue of the fact that they are moderators, their opinions carry more weight, especially with some of the weaker posters, and they cripple many of the discussions or steer them onto a track that they prefer. In my opinion they can do this by the power of their title and not necessarily by the power of their argument.

I will grant you that they don't seem to ban anyone capriciously and that certain posters seem to beg to be banned. I don't want to discuss the moderators too much, as I enjoy coming here and I don't want to tempt them to ban me.

	04-10-2002 02:52									#39
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Mings opinions carry weight?

See you in two weeks!

	04-10-2002 03:54									#40
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MtG's opinions often carry quite a bit of weight, but it's got nothing to do with the fact that he's a moderator and has everything to do with the fact that he steamrolls everybody. Ming and Rah also have their opinions, but they aren't necessarily more weighty--people are just more careful about resorting to flaming them, and that's not really that bad of a thing.

	04-10-2002 03:57									#41
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The MooClan forums are pretty good, except the posting isn't really the regular, and the game they play (Q2 Chaos) I don't play anymore. Now I'm jsut in the clan by name only (thus, I am SwitchMoo, not just Switch). But the content is pretty good, although a definite lacking in any academic or controversial subjects like here.

Poly is still my favourite, though

	04-10-2002 04:25									#42
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http://www.sc3000.com/forums/

The three-frame layout option rocks.

	04-10-2002 07:20									#43
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Not very many boards will allow you to rant about Christopher Reeves in the manner of the Straight Dope. My favorite line:

"I'm with you, Cosmo. Sure, the guy's had a struggle, but when you come right down to it, all he did was not die. Hell, I do that every day. Where's my Time Magazine feature article?"

	04-10-2002 07:26									#44
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I also post ocasionally at Ambrosia Software's web fora. Ambrosia software basically makes games for mac, so it's like Apolyton only people are smarter and have more style…
The only thing worse than it is that I'm rather a newbie to it (only about 500 posts) and it's a bit less active. Also I'm just used to the people around here… I have far too much history with this site…
Also another plus they have is that they have TWO off topic forums, something APOLYTON SHOULD HAVE KEPT. *cough cough*

http://www.AmbrosiaSW.com/cgi-bin/u...orum=EV+banter+|AMP|+brawl&number=10&DaysPrune=20&LastLogin=

http://www.AmbrosiaSW.com/cgi-bin/u...er=23&SUBMIT=Go

	04-10-2002 07:27									#45
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at the idea of moderator's words carrying more weight than regular posters…

	04-10-2002 07:42									#46
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MosesPresley:

I am just a bit surprised that, being at Apolyton since December 1999, you haven't realized yet that Markos, Dan, Ming, MtG, et al., generally don't bite people's heads off at first glance. Nor do their opinions necessarily "tame" a thread into going a certain way.

Heh. I have to admit, though, that MtG's posts remind me of a certain — and very much admired — pair of profs I had at the university. They spoke their minds (and I didn't always agree) and shot true and straight. For better or worse, you knew where they stood on certain issues. Classes were a blast with them, because they nurtured discussion.

OK, enough with the blast from the past memories.

Gatekeeper

	04-10-2002 07:52									#47
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I have been here since '99, but I have only started lurking here in earnest since late '01 when Civ 3 came out. I originally came here after the old Firaxis SMAC .owo forums were closed down.

I have found just the opposite. If the moderators disagree with a subject, they all but close down the topic with snide remarks and sneering commentary, but that's just my pov. I'm know many of you feel differently.

	04-10-2002 07:55									#48
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quote: Originally posted by MosesPresley I have been here since '99, but I have only started lurking here in earnest since late '01 when Civ 3 came out. I originally came here after the old Firaxis SMAC .owo forums were closed down. I have found just the opposite. If the moderators disagree with a subject, they all but close down the topic with snide remarks and sneering commentary, but that's just my pov. I'm know many of you feel differently.

But, most of the time you can reply to their snide remarks and sneering commentary and, as long as you don't go outside the rules of the forum, also be snide and sneering.

	04-10-2002 08:08									#49
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True dat.

	04-10-2002 08:29									#50
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All of us that came here from .owo deserve a combat patch or something.

	04-10-2002 09:22									#51
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You were there too jimmytrick? I didn't know that. I feel your pain. The main trouble maker there migrated to here too, but somehow he has been reigned in. Maybe there are too many intelligent people here to fall for his amateur corporate espionage tactics. I don't dare name the fiend for fear of summoning him in all of his pestilent glory.

	04-10-2002 10:11									#52
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quote: originally posted by MosesPresley: True dat.

Are you from the ghetto?

	04-10-2002 10:14									#53
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www.tribalwar.com is fun (less rules ), but this is a bit more intelligent

	04-10-2002 12:26									#54
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I can't be bothered to deal with other forums. This one's annoying enough.

	04-10-2002 23:58									#56
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quote: Originally posted by MosesPresley The main trouble maker there migrated to here too, but somehow he has been reigned in. Maybe there are too many intelligent people here to fall for his amateur corporate espionage tactics. I don't dare name the fiend for fear of summoning him in all of his pestilent glory.

There are at least a dozen old owo posters now convinced you're talking about them. Myself included.

	05-10-2002 00:00									#57
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Spamtastic.

	05-10-2002 01:00									#58
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Anyone know a good msg board where they talk about ghosts and crap? Those are always fun to mess wit! The one I use to go to shut down, so I have been coming here. To my dismay this board great. All be it filled with a lot of smart ppl, kind of makes me fill dumb, I guess my wife was right...(<-sarcasim)

I like the moderator envolvement here a lot, it tends to control the board better, and ppl knowing that the modsquad is around makes them behave a little better. I am sorry to ever feels that their opinions carry more weight, they are just better at arguing...I don't think that arguing has anything to do with "smarts" more so than it has to do with "wits".

Conversations don't close...they just fade away.
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kind of like this one

	05-10-2002 04:18									#59
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ill vote for apolyton OT as the best forum i have seen. with credit to Civilization for being a game that attracts the smarter end of the population.

	05-10-2002 04:27									#60
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It's obviously yin26.