06-10-2002 02:15									#1
	Office of City Planner: Official Provincial Borders Support Apolyton, buy Civilization III: Complete

With permission from MoCP Godking, here is a proposal to formalize our Provinces. There are 3 options:

Yes. This is good and logical/about time this got done

No. I have changes I would make.

Banana/abstain

If you choose option 2 (no), please post why and what your changes would be.

Proposed Provincial borders and why (some "stretches" were made to keep the provinces about the same number of cities)

Siberia (8 Cities, 1 under our control)
Hole in the Wall
Brundisium (Roman)
Novgorod (Russian)
Sevastopol (Russian)
Dijon (French)
Amiens (French)
Krasnoyarsk (Russian)
Avignon (French)
The end of the desert is a good border for the north of this province. The Moutians to the NE is a Natural border along with the Ocean to the E. The hills that dot the S and W is another Natural border. Due to this area being in the North of Abananaba Minor, and the fact that it is narrow, maybe change the name to "The Bottleneck" or something like it.

Ill de Rose (9 Cities, 5 in our control)
Here It Is
Macross City
Jerusalem
Port Rouge
Opiadom
Athens (Greek)
Sparta (Greek)
Delphi (Greek)
Rheims (French)
The Large Mountian range is a perfect border for the W and S of Ill de Rose. Note That the Map Maker doesn't connect left/right and up/down tiles. This cuts Off Lyons and puts it into what ever we name the Greek Coast. If you look at Athens, there is a mountian the comes out and cuts it off from the northern Greek Cities. There is a two tile gap between this mountian and the start of another range. This "Gap of Ill de Rose" makes for a good border to the N. If you note Herakleia, it is nestled inside a "u" of Mountians and should be part of another province. The Border between Ill de Rose and Pina Colada is the river that runs past Delphi. Since Delphi is on the SW side of the river, its in Ill de Rose. Now follow that river two tiles to the SE then jump a few tiles till you get to the river by Timeline. Follow that river down one then cut over to the SW and end in the Bay of Port Rouge.

Pina Colada (9 Cities, 3 in our Control)
Chiquita
Del Monte
Argos (Greek)
Chicago (Aztec)
Boston (Aztec)
New York
Washington (Aztec)
Cologne (German)
Hannover (German)
The Mountian Range to the NW, N and NE is the perfect Natural border. I know that Chicago is Isolated be a row of lesser mountians, but the Greater range goes around it plus, What other province would it go to? Pina Colada is dotted with Left over Mountians to the south that have been eroded away over the eons by the encroaching Jungle (I propose that the Great Banana Long ago smited a previous Pina Colada civilization with a great meteor and this place is actually the Pina Colada Creator). I have used the "Gap" proposal again with the two mountians SW and NE of Del Monte (The province capital). "The Old Gap".

Mingapulco (8 Cities, all in our control)
Timeline
Termina
Ghengistown
Gaia
Apolyton
Tassagrad
Banana HQ
Chartres
W and N borders already explained. It looses Loveshack to help out the pathetic province of El Nino. Draw a line down from the Mountians of Seeberg to the Blue Lagoon of Loveshack and the city could go either way.

El Nino (6 Cities, all in our control)
Seeberg
Loveshack
Oak Ridge
Ubergorsk
Napoleton
Geofront
The Mountian range on the E is the perfect border. This range also covers the N all the way to the Mountians of Seeberg. Using the line that was drawn to form the border of Mingapulco, we get a city (Loveshack) divided. As I was never a big fan of the Berlin Wall, I say either Mingapulco or El Nino. And since El Nino would only have five cities without Loveshack, I propose it goes there.

Persian Annexation (12/13 Cities, 8 in our control)
Tomstone (going to disband, not counted)
City on A Hill
Port Of Malignance
Willsbury
Contaginon
Bacteria
Muncie
Susa
Tarsus
Antioch
Arbela
Oxford (English)
Hastings (English)
Coventry (English)(Possibly)
The Mountian range between El Nino and the Persian Annexation is perfect and it if we follow this range to the coast (through York) then it works as a perfect borber the entire way (York going to the North as the Persian Annexation is big enough already). The only thing I have to say about the Persian Annexation is that it is so big, that we sould divide it into two sub-provinces (the Highlands and Lowlands for now).

Persian Annexation Highlands (5/6 Cities, 4 in our control)
City On a Hill
Port Of Malignance
Willsbury
Contaginon
Antioch
Coventry (English)(Possibly)
Coventry because by the left/right up/down tile thing I talked about with Ile De Rose could apply here. Contaginon because there is a stretch of hills that come down from the Mountians that go down as far as the city (plus it evens the number of cities up).

Persian Annexation Lowlands (7 Cities, 4 in our control)
Muncie
Bacteria
Susa
Tarsus
Oxford (English)
Hastings (English)
Arbela
This is the rest of the Persian Annexation.

Uber Island (Currently 4 cities, all in our control)
Another Glorious City
Boom Town
BFM
Site E
Thebes
If you need me to explain what the borders are for this, Quit Apolytonia and join the Romans as you will do us more good there!

Edited to reflect current save.

Last edited by Donegeal on 11-10-2002 at 10:30

	06-10-2002 02:21									#2
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	06-10-2002 04:04									#3
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If you vote no, please post why, what changes you would make and arguments that suport your change.

	06-10-2002 15:06									#4
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good work donegeal

	07-10-2002 05:37									#5
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quote: Originally posted by donegeal Uber Island (Currently 4 cities, all in our control) Another Glorious City Boom Town BFM Site E

Can you explain the borders for this?


Okay man, kidding with you...
I was livin' on the beach down in The Calamares
which us Squid-eaters used to call the northern beach of Uber Island. I love the place.

That's also where Another Glorious City is located.
The town where we founded a local Thinkers Guild last month.
It's a nice town, but who the hell named it Another Glorious City is ? And now people say AGC.
It's really depressing times nowadays...


(edit)
And what's BFM supposed to mean?


Ok, ok... I give you folks up.

	08-10-2002 05:52									#6
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	08-10-2002 22:34									#7
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Thanks for doing this donegeal.

GK

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	10-10-2002 19:34									#9
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I voted Yes, but realize this will be in a perpertual state of defintion. As long as we have an idea of the typical size in cities of a province, it will be an easier process. Especially for the CP and Provincial Administrators.

Plauge --

IIFRC, BFM is for BigFurryMonster.

	10-10-2002 20:49									#10
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You should edit you first post to reflect the changes in 490AD, Chartres seeding to us and building of Thebes on Uber, Antiock and Arbela now ours.

Great work. Even though I would have named Siberia something else (it doesn't look like it would be cold there).

E_T

	10-10-2002 22:06									#11
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I named it Siberia cause it's out in the middle of nowhere, a good location to ship of Regional Administrators you want to forget about.

	11-10-2002 04:10									#12
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Updated for captured and founded. Thanks GF!

	14-10-2002 18:28									#13
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WHOOAAAAAA I missed this entire thread because I was on my fall break... whoa. The MPP must be ecstatic... you all really carved the **** out of Piña Colada! Well there goes it's dominance... the stats are gonna be crazy now, with all these changes.