07-10-2002 01:43									#1
	1.29f worth it? Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations

i know it came out some time ago, but i'm thinking now maybe i should download the 1.29f patch. i chose not to becuase it looked like most of the changes had to do with the editor, and i just don't use it all that much. so are there any serious gameplay issues that were addressed in 1.29f that i should get? thanks

	07-10-2002 02:14									#2
	Re: 1.29f worth it? Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

You should always update your game with the latest patch unless theres some pressing reason not to (eg it has a virus, it removes your favorite civ, it crashes the game)

	07-10-2002 02:19									#3
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization: The Boardgame

Why haven't you updated yet? 1.29 is great!

	07-10-2002 02:47									#4
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization 2

129f is much better than anything so far and I think PTW incorporates it.

	07-10-2002 02:48									#5
	Support Apolyton

yes.

don't even bother reading anything about it, just upgrade. it's the best yet.

	07-10-2002 02:53									#6
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The 'Fortify All' and 'Wake All' commands are worth it on their own. I could never go back to the days before those commands.

Upgrade!

	07-10-2002 02:55									#7
	Support Apolyton, pre-order Civilization IV

unless your computer is reeeeally slow or pressed that last byte of space, then download this. its free, for gods sake

	07-10-2002 04:38									#8
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The upgrade is worth it, the FORTIFY ALL command is well worth it alone....


As far as I can tell there aren't any bugs on the newest version

	07-10-2002 05:49									#9
	Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

FYI, the 'Fortify All' and 'Wake All' are in the Right-Click menu. And having just gone through a 1.21 Macintosh game that lacks those commands, yes they are quite handy.

And of course, they are not all of the changes, and PTW will have plenty more including (gasp!) more "devious"/"smarter" BARBARIANS!

	07-10-2002 06:04									#10
	Support Apolyton, buy GURPS/ Alpha Centauri

The 'Fortify All' and 'Wake All' commands are worth it on their own. I could never go back to the days before those commands.

Hear, Hear!!

	07-10-2002 07:51									#11
	Put an end to popups!

Additionally, there are ongoing tweaks to the AI that, while subtle, make a difference.

Um, maybe a silly question, but why would you NOT upgrade?

	07-10-2002 18:06									#12
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I'm not sure that the "AI tweaks" are all that subtle. I cleaned house with 1.21 but I've even been beaten on Regent with 1.29 (twice )

That said, 1.29 is much better than all previous versions.

	08-10-2002 03:56									#13
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So what your saying is i should upgrade...


okay, the fortify/wake all command does sounds very useful, i assume it works for units in a stack. but why would i not upgrade...well, there is this tiny little problem i have with my dial-up connection, mainly that it is a dial-up connection. and the preview of the upgrade didn't sound quite as important for gameplay reasons as the other upgrades. so i figured i was enjoying civ3 as it was, and it wasn't worth messing with it. but see, this is what i was looking for, actually feedback. so i'll upgrade. thanks fella

	09-10-2002 00:58									#14
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how do the foritify all and wake all commands work?

	09-10-2002 01:14									#15
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident how do the foritify all and wake all commands work?

The 'Fortify All' and 'Wake All' are in the Right-Click menu. It literally does what it says: regardless of mix of unit types, all are fortified or awakened.

	09-10-2002 01:19									#16
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Is that just in the same stack?

I would think so, I wouldn't want every unit I have fortified or wakened.

I didn't even know we had a sleep command. Did they fix that in one of the patches? I just started playing again after nearly 10 months of not playing.

	09-10-2002 01:23									#17
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization 2

Yes, same stack.

	09-10-2002 02:06									#18
	Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

Yes you will have to issue the command for each stack.

	09-10-2002 02:22									#19
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yeah, they added a sleep command. at least, if by that you mean a command that wakes up a unit when an enermy comes in range, than yes, they added that