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Bereta_Eder is offline Bereta_Eder
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Very fast map about whatever you know/comes to your mind.

Let's get to know them!


Cyprus.

Cyprus was liberated from the turkish yoke sometime but I dont remember/know when. Then it was a british colony. The brits hanged a teenager cyprus boy who fought for its independence sometime in the '50s!

Then it got its independence. There was always a lot of friction between turkey and greece about cyprus.

turkey always believed that cyprus constitutes a danger in its "tender underbelly". greece and turkey almost went to war for it.

in '67 a dictatorship takes power in greece and tries foolishly and without any kind of preparation to realize the "enosis". the unification of greece and cyprus.


many of the cypriotes didnt want it themselves. others did. the dictatorship has full faith in NATO and doesnt take into account the fact that turkey has moved the bulk of its forces next to the island (also called Megalonissos = the big island in greek).
turkey invades, greece wholly unprepared and with its army in decay due to the dictatorship rushes to its aid and stops the turks one the 1/3 of cyprus. thousand of casualties, attrocities and rapes from the turks.
international community freezes arms sales to turkey and promises a diplomatic solution. meanwhile greek dictatorship crumbles and democracy is reinstituted.

UN resolutions for the past 20 years call for the removal of the turkish troops. the island is de facto devided in two.

the original turkish cypriotes want to join the EU alongside the greek cypriotes but ankara and the dictatorship of the north part of the occupied island doesnt let them. ther occupied part is not recognised by the international community and its extremely impoverished.

cyrpus (the legal entity) is very prosperous and a financial center of the region.
like greece it is vulnerable to inflitration from middle eastern elements due to its close proximity to that region.



estonia,latvia, lithuania, got their independence frm the soviet union pretty recently. have good relation with the scandinavian countries and finland. propably had to go through painful economic reforms. they are small and cute.
estonian girls rock and lithuania kicks ass in basketball.


poland. americans make a lot of jokes about polish being dumb. i have met some of them and we have become good friends. their country is big but retarded economically. it suffered a lot in WW2. it provides cheap labor for germany. germany really wants poland in.

bulgaria. was liberated sometime after the greeks and serbs liberated themselves from the turkish yoke. was one of the participants of the first balkan alliance against turkey in 1 balkan war. (greece, serbia, montenegro, bulgaria). then the alliance broke down and fought against greece and serbia.
it has a poor economy, provides unfortunately slave sex trade and we must do more to stop it from all over eastern europe. has maintained reasonably good relations with greece even though it sided with the axis in WW2. a good country.


slovenia. the richest of the ex-yugoslav republics. small, 2 million people. westernized and beaytiful. i think it has a vibrant creative youth. got spared the pain of the ygoslav war thanks to croatia which is between her and serbia. even though it is technically, it is not really a balkan country.

romania, after tsaouseskou things got better. big but a bit backward in economy. does its maximum of efforts to enter the EU. heavy greek investements there. (telecommunications, ship industry etc)

slovakia, the provence of the chech republic nah, not really although it always was a bit behind it. divided peacefully from chech republic. had dire violations of human rights in respect the the hungarian and other ethnicities that lived there. its government was under supervision. glad to see it overcame.


bored to write about the others.

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I'll refrain from writing about Hungary, since I probably know too much.

Slovenia: Ski manufacturer "Elan", world class alpine skiers. Literally alpine, the Alps dominate the country.

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Here's a list of possible new states for the U.S.:

Canada: Often referred to already as "the fifty first state," "America Jr.," "Canada, eh," "Old Woody," and "That country north of America." Contains one of the coolest cities on earth (Amsterdam, I mean Vancouver), has all the timber we'll need for some time, and plenty of prime skiing locations. The downsides: too many bums in Vancouver and the French Canadians.

Cuba: Once Fiedel is dead, America is going to say hello to it's little frien'. Lots of great cigars and beaches, plus American currency already runs the country. It would be a natural transition. More commonly known as "that place Scarface was from."

Taiwan: China can't invade it if it becomes a state...am I right or am I right? Would help our economy, and everyone wants to help our economy. Besides, we should be conquering land all the way around the world till we get back to Europe. Then we could teach those filthy frogs a lesson! Their flag could say "made in Taiwan" on it. It would be clever.

Turkey: Cause you filthy ****** over in Europe ain't ever going to let a muslim country into the EU, we'll stick up for the good guys and make'em a state. Advantages for turkey: stable currency, economy, and political system. Advantages for U.S.: gives us a launch pad to kick ass in the Middle East, Turkey is a cool place to visit, and gives us a launch pad to kick some frog ass.

Tunisia and Morrocco: Modern Arab countries that deserve democracy but won't get it unless we force it on 'em. Plus, they could act as a good platform to wipe out those filthy frogs.

That's all I can think of now.

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Malta:

Tiny islands south of Siciliy.
Hot and dry.
Overpopulated.
Left hand driving.
Catholic.
Capital: Valletta.
Language: Maltese (the only semitic language written in the Latin alphabet) and English.

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Yes, I have been to Malta, it is small, but there is no reason why it shouldn't be an EU member as it seems prosperous enough.

And I have been to Cyprus. I reckon Turkey will have to do something about Northern Cyprus too before they have a cat in hell's chance of been admitted. I remember when I was in Cyprus seeing how Nicosia was split in two in a very crude way with makeshift blockades. And I saw Famagusta from a distance and it looked like a ghost town. What has happened there in recent time?

And it would be nice to see some of the Balkan states join the EU eventually, fill in that rather ugly gap

And why hasn't Norway ever bothered to join? No real loss I suppose

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If Greeks are able to ban Turkey for human rights violations, rest of Europe should be able to ban Cyprus for always - without exception - giving the S.A.G.A.P.O nation 12 points in EuroVision.

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We've voted no twice, in '72 and '94.

We have our own little club with Iceland and Liechtenstein.

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If Greeks are able to ban Turkey for human rights violations, rest of Europe should be able to ban Cyprus for always - without exception - giving the S.A.G.A.P.O nation 12 points in EuroVision.


what's wrong if they like our songs?

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what's wrong if they like our songs?


Yeeeaaaaaah.

Riiiiight.

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And you get all the votes from all your neighboors too.
that's why scandinavian countries always win. because you have more neighboors. (not that finland ever won or is even scandinavian but still)

i won't stand for this defamation!

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We've voted no twice, in '72 and '94.

We have our own little club with Iceland and Liechtenstein.


Wow, I bet they must put a lot of commerce your way, all 136 people who live in those countries

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Hey, Iceland's got at least 200 000 inhabitants!

And I forgot, Switzerland is member of EFTA as well.

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Norwegian beer is too expensive (almost twice as much as in Finland... and Finland has some damn expensive alcohol). And only 3.5% (or so I've heard)... we don't want that anyway.

ESTONIA:
Cheap alcohol.
...nice, by the Baltic sea... cheap alcohol.
Tallinn is a nice town...
Cheap alcohol..
and something. Nice language maybe...

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Norwegian beer is too expensive (almost twice as much as in Finland... and Finland has some damn expensive alcohol). And only 3.5% (or so I've heard)... we don't want that anyway.


well alcohol would get cheaper if we joined.

3,5%? That's Swedish beer.
Norwegian beer is usually 4,5 or 4,7%.

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I voted for S.A.G.A.P.O. in the Eurovision Song Contest.

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3,5%? That's Swedish beer.


Oh... well, that explains a lot.

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I voted for S.A.G.A.P.O. in the Eurovision Song Contest.


Yes, but you're Snapcase, so your musical dalliances are excusable.

(Come to think of it, there was worse trash than S.A.G.A.P.O - at least S.A.G.A.P.O was entertainingly bad. But still, it sticks to your mind.)

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here is a couple stupid questions, but hey i'm an american

when would these countries actually join the Eu?

when would they start using the Euro?

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come on Stefu!

Say it!

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you know you want to! it's a catchy tune!

(but the performance sucked really bad. recorded it sounds much much much better. the costumes brouight to mind riot police in gethenborg too)

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Hey, Iceland's got at least 200 000 inhabitants!

And I forgot, Switzerland is member of EFTA as well.


Don't count on Switzerland or Liechtenstein, we can just blockade then

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korn some of them in 2004 some others in 2007

they will use the euro when they enter i think.

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thanks for the info paiktis

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Don't count on Switzerland or Liechtenstein, we can just blockade then


Then we would have no choice but to invade and shut down Brussels.

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korn some of them in 2004 some others in 2007

they will use the euro when they enter i think.


2004: Poland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Hungary, Czech republic, Slovakia, Slovenia, Malta, Cyprus. Only a few of these aim to use Euro right away, don't remember which countries.

2007: Romania, Bulgaria. May/may not use Euro when they enter.

Beyond 2007: Turkey

Maybe later: Norway, Switzerland, Balcan states, Ukraine, Caucasus states, Russia etc...

Then we build a federation together with US, Canada, Australia etc to ensure that this galaxy will be dominated by humans, not bugs. Now and forever

 
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