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Gatekeeper
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United States of America
Feb 2000
time: 23:23
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... if this isn't ported to the Macintosh, I really have no reason to drop $2000 on one of those new iMacs. I'd just as well spend the same dollar amount on a good PC system and, well, learn to love WindowsXP alongside my old iMac.
I'm one of those folks who doesn't demand much from their computer. I want to:
1. Surf the Internet.
2. Type papers, prepare presentations.
3. Conduct online research.
4. Play games like Civ III.
If I'm going to shell out premium bucks for a Macintosh, it'd better be able to do all four of the above tasks. As it stand now, it would have 1, 2, and 3, but not 4 in its entirety. Furthermore, I don't know if I'd still be able to play Civ II in the 10.2 Jaguar OS environment (is MacOS 9.2 part of 10.2?).
So, as it stands now, a PC may be in my future, not a Macintosh. And the sad thing is, I *love* the Mac platform. But I suppose I could learn to work w/WXP as well.
**sigh** Here's to still hoping 1.29 and PtW come to the Macintosh platform.
Gatekeeper
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FlameFlash
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Minnesota, USA
Dec 2001
time: 23:23
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Originally posted by Gatekeeper
... if this isn't ported to the Macintosh, I really have no reason to drop $2000 on one of those new iMacs. I'd just as well spend the same dollar amount on a good PC system and, well, learn to love WindowsXP alongside my old iMac. |
It's completly up to you, of course, but... well, I'll go into it in a moment...
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I'm one of those folks who doesn't demand much from their computer. I want to:
1. Surf the Internet.
2. Type papers, prepare presentations.
3. Conduct online research.
4. Play games like Civ III. |
I have a feeling that's what your average computer user does no matter the platform...
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If I'm going to shell out premium bucks for a Macintosh, it'd better be able to do all four of the above tasks. As it stand now, it would have 1, 2, and 3, but not 4 in its entirety. Furthermore, I don't know if I'd still be able to play Civ II in the 10.2 Jaguar OS environment (is MacOS 9.2 part of 10.2?). |
Actually, with the Classic environment (OS 9.2) being stabilized, I would wager it would/should work. I can post more on this when I have a copy of X.2 myself... I do know that while SMAC/SMAX has been carbonized by a fan of the game, it works fine in Classic as well. Likewise, most older programs work unless they're overly processor heavy, so Civ II shouldn't be a problem at all.
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So, as it stands now, a PC may be in my future, not a Macintosh. And the sad thing is, I *love* the Mac platform. But I suppose I could learn to work w/WXP as well.
**sigh** Here's to still hoping 1.29 and PtW come to the Macintosh platform.
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And now for what I was about to actually make a new thread about :
For those of you Mac users who haven't bought Civ III yet, buy it if you've been contemplating it. If you love your Mac OS operating system enough to remain loyal to it, even over a Civ game, then you are truely loyal.
Also, the more of us who do buy into Civ III the more likely it becomes for the people who sells these games to go...  we've sold only ((a bad estimate)) 10,000 copies of Civ III for Mac? No point in putting any more work in it then, forget about the 1.29 patch and PtW translations, there's no demand.
Likewise:
  We've sold 100,000 ((probably another bad estimate)) that's a whole lot more than we expected... maybe it would be worth it to figure out a way to make PtW for Mac... let's do it! The demand certainly looks like it's there, and our tech department is tired of the floods of e-mail coming in about bugs that the 1.29 patch would fix, so let's do both.
Of course, nobody can easily predict a business, nor the gamer world, but if we could get a PtW campaign going and enough Mac users pledging that they'd buy PtW and CivIII for the Mac... and the CivIII Mac owners already out there pledge to buy PtW... well, we might just have something that would tell the computer world that Mac gaming should be respected and catered to...
But that's just my two cents and wishful thinking...
What does the small but vocal Mac community here think?
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Drake Tungsten
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Knee deep in alien womyn...
Oct 2001
time: 14:23
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... if this isn't ported to the Macintosh, I really have no reason to drop $2000 on one of those new iMacs. I'd just as well spend the same dollar amount on a good PC system and, well, learn to love WindowsXP alongside my old iMac.
I'm one of those folks who doesn't demand much from their computer. I want to:
1. Surf the Internet.
2. Type papers, prepare presentations.
3. Conduct online research.
4. Play games like Civ III.
If I'm going to shell out premium bucks for a Macintosh, it'd better be able to do all four of the above tasks. As it stand now, it would have 1, 2, and 3, but not 4 in its entirety. |
I'm in the same boat as you, Gatekeeper. I'm planning on buying a new Mac very soon and Civ III-PTW was one of the major reasons. If it doesn't get ported, I don't know if I'll be buying a new computer. I don't think that I'll swtich to Windows, but I might just stick with the old Mac I have now. New games are really the only thing I need a faster processor for.
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blahedo
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Providence, RI
Aug 2002
time: 00:23
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Originally posted by FlameFlash
Besides for the screen resolution bug, what else would the 1.29 fix?
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Well, all the things that 1.29 fixed in the PC version, I would assume...
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Have you been able to play the game at all?! :eek:
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Nope. I double click it, it bounces in the dock for perhaps ten seconds, and then it quits. Not even a dialog box pops up (which is interesting, because in the FAQ it says that even with the screen resolution problem you get to the initial config screen).
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I think you've got a big case for calling and harassing Infogrames every day... I'll start too once I get the game (if it's even recommended that I get it anymore...)
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See, that's the thing---I still really really want to play it, because it's a great game (my housemate has it on her PC, and I've played it a bunch over there). I definitely plan on calling Infogrames to harass them about this, though.
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EJDay
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Originally posted by blahedo
I'm really getting pretty irritated that they haven't released the 1.29 patch yet for the Mac---when I called in August, they implied that it was nearly done and would be rolled out in a few weeks. Since I can't play CivIII at all on my TiBook until the patch comes out (due to idiocy regarding screen resolution), I would have returned the game if I thought it was going to be another three months (and counting...) |
Just out of curiosity, what is it about screen resolution that prevents you from playing? I've got an old 400 TiBook and it plays fine on mine (from the beginning up through and including 1.21g).
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blahedo
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Providence, RI
Aug 2002
time: 00:23
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Originally posted by EJDay
Just out of curiosity, what is it about screen resolution that prevents you from playing? I've got an old 400 TiBook and it plays fine on mine (from the beginning up through and including 1.21g). |
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The FAQ includes a question about CivIII crashing on tibooks, and the answer says that "this issue seems to be related to the screen resolutions unique to the wide screen on the PowerBook." The question as stated doesn't exactly describe my experience (it says "when I get to the gameplay screen", but I don't even get that far), so I called them, and they said it was definitely the resolution.
This is, of course, completely idiotic since the tibook also supports all the standard resolutions---and even if I switch to the standard resolutions it crashes on startup. Nevertheless, they said it's because of the resolution, and that the fix would be in the patch, which they implied would be out soon.
Three months ago.
But tell me about your experience here! You actually have a Titanium Powerbook G4? With a native resolution of 1152x768? And CivIII "plays fine"? Wow, I didn't think anything would piss me off more than them dragging their feet on the patch, but this'd be it.
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EJDay
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Originally posted by blahedo
...But tell me about your experience here! You actually have a Titanium Powerbook G4? With a native resolution of 1152x768? And CivIII "plays fine"? Wow, I didn't think anything would piss me off more than them dragging their feet on the patch, but this'd be it. |
Yup. Sorry to fuel the fire, but I play on 1152x768, millions of colors. Not stretched, if that makes a difference. Had some problems with playing the "movie" of game progress at the end, but not switching resolution for the movie -- and giving it a minute to think about it -- it plays fine, too.
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blahedo
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Providence, RI
Aug 2002
time: 00:23
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GAAAHHH.
After EJDay's post, I called tech support, and pointed out that my problem (they still had me on file!) still happened but clearly wasn't due to screen resolution. "Jason" asked me if I was running OS X ("yes"; "oh.") then, well, had I tried it under OS 9? No.
So I commenced to try it, but first I had to move the install over to my other partition, since it was on the UFS partition that only OS X could see. He suggested deleting it and reinstalling it (and then reapplying the patch), and if it still didn't work, to call back.
As I was waiting for the install, it dawned on me: the reason it didn't work was because Macsoft assumed an HFS+ drive, and never thought to test on UFS. I was dead certain that it would work fine under both systems, once it was installed on the HFS+ partition.
Sure enough...
It runs, I can start a game, I can do stuff, and at tibook 1152x768 resolution to boot.
I still can't save, though, or more exactly, I can't load a saved game; but that is a separate problem that I can call tech support about tomorrow.
JEE-zus I wish they had told me this four months ago. I bet they don't even have any idea that UFS partitions don't work with their software. They certainly don't mention it in the FAQ.
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EJDay
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Originally posted by blahedo
I still can't save, though, or more exactly, I can't load a saved game; but that is a separate problem that I can call tech support about tomorrow. |
Happy to eliminate possibilities.
On the save issue, I've noticed it can be finicky. If you're playing a different patch level than you saved, it won't open the game (a consideration if you did a fresh install). If you're just moving the game around, something usually seems to get corrupted. I remember reinstalling the game and repatching to my previous level (hard drive issues), only to find while the original the .sav files had been corrupted. Bummer. If you start a new game, can you save it and go back to it? If so, you may be experiencing the same corruptions I was getting (and if that's the case, the empire locked in those old .sav files are gone forever).
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EJDay
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Originally posted by blahedo
Nope, I generated the save file from scratch under this installation, after applying the patch. |
Hm. I'm stumped. Do you remember the specific error message? Or what exactly happens?
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15-10-2002 00:16
I wish I could help you out more on that one.
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