15-10-2002 08:35									#1
	Hail to the Redskins Dip (sign up) Put an end to popups!

Well enough of the peace pipe around here! Let's have some real war. This is a variant called Native American Dip, that I'll call 'Hail to the Redskins Dip'. The first 11 war chiefs to respond with a full set of preferences will get the nod to race for control of North America in 1500. Please excuse any historical inconsistencies, as it's just a game map that I ran across out there, and thought would be fun. If we like it enough we can work on modifying it maybe.

This variant follows all the basic rules of diplomacy with a few minor adjustments. All nations start with one war party (army) per player; there are no fleets; builds may be on any controlled center available to build on; the first war chief to claim 20 feathers (supply centers) wins!

I need preferences from everyone who aspires to conquer North America before the vile Europeans arrive to do their worst. Here's the map:


http://www.geocities.com/ruffhaus8/ADC70/W1600.gif


The eleven war parties are:

Cherokee (Catawba)
Choctaw
Iroquois
Kickapoo
Klamath
Malcite
Nez Perce
Serrano
Sioux
Wichita
Zuni


Please e-mail your intent to play and nation choices to RUFFHAUS8@aol.com

	15-10-2002 10:52									#2
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I'm sorry..."Hail to the Redskins"???

That's extremely insulting to Native Americans. The skin of a native American is not red, it is simply pigmented differently than that of Indo-Europeans, Asians, and Africans.

I strongly suggest you change the name of this game IMMEDIATELY

	15-10-2002 12:33									#3
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Would "let's get drunk" work better?

	15-10-2002 15:24									#4
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I might have known. I didn't know that you spoke for American Indians, orange, but thanks for your opinion.

	15-10-2002 18:16									#5
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Didn't you know Ruff, that Orange wouldn't be happy unless we are all riding our bicycles with black pajamas and those funny little hats.
If there was a Wisconsin Pro football team called the Milwaukee Pollacks, I would be for it, I believe it to be an honor, we wouldn't be forgotton, but then again Orange will never understand something like that.

I have a bigger issue, funny how you are getting the "Hail to the Redskins" just before the Packers(or is that wrong to say of guys who are in the packaging business, oh well) annihilate those Redskins of Washington.

	15-10-2002 18:36									#6
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Can everyone here please look up the word 'satire' in the dictionary

	15-10-2002 18:44									#7
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Now Orange,
It is tough to decide when you are in "satire" mode or not, because everybody knows you are a tree hugging socialist who really believes in some of this foolishness that us commoners don't.

	15-10-2002 18:53									#8
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if there's one thing I'm not, it's PC

I recently heard this one...

Calling heterosexual people "Straight" offends gay people...and they prefer the term "non-Gay" to describe the sexuality of heteros

Yeah, and I'm a non-black non-female too

	16-10-2002 02:06									#9
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Orange, can you take the PC banter to the OT forum (where it thrives) please?

I'm trying to get a game going here. Either sign up, or don't. But take the debate off this thread. (threadjacker!)

Three spots taken, 8 still available, let's go.

	16-10-2002 03:15									#10
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did you read my posts, Ruff?

	17-10-2002 17:55									#12
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I have now e-mailed my intent to play and nation choices to RUFFHAUS8@aol.com.

May I diplomatically choke your rivers with your dead.

	18-10-2002 07:28									#13
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OK, I'm in Chief.

Preferences:
Cherokee,
Serrano
Nez Pierce
any other Nation.

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	18-10-2002 08:28									#14
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Okay, I have 7 slots left. Defiant, Gerwald, Snowcrash, and Thucydides have signed up. The big eagle in the sky thanks you brave warriors for your interest.

Now: orange, Gnu, and Larry... All of you were interested enough to be wiseacres on the thread. What do you say? It's just one unit to start? C'mon, this will be a wild one.

	18-10-2002 11:00									#15
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Maybe in gunboat mode, but I already play one vanilla dip and GM'ing one Imperial... And my employer keeps insisting that I'll work during the day, so what can I do?

	18-10-2002 11:33									#16
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I'd like to Ruff, but I'm really bogged down as is...you should know that by now

I believe I'm in or GMing 7 games at the moment...and WWI dip is on the table too...

	18-10-2002 15:08									#17
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" ...and WWI dip is on the table too... "

Yes, I believe that appeared after I proposed this game, which I only did to get things kicking some more in this dying club.

Anyway, you sign up for this, and I'll play in yours? Okay?

	18-10-2002 22:41									#18
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you should make it a modified gunboat...we know who is playing but not what country they are?

Ok Ok Ok...I'll play, put me down...i'll take anything

	21-10-2002 18:26									#19
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RUFF, if you still need more players, I'm game.

My only problem is that I could be deployed at any time, so I might have to drop suddenly. Otherwise, my prefs are in the mail if ou still need a guy.

	21-10-2002 21:21									#20
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Hmm.... hmmm.... *is tempted*

Exams or dip... Exams or dip... Exams or dip...

It's a bloody tought choice

	21-10-2002 21:43									#21
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bloody hell Larry, you can play one game can'tcha? I'm in 9 now, and I have school and work to think of too!

(and somewhere in there I squeeze a social life? )

	22-10-2002 02:41									#22
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BAH! Ok. I'll send in bloody prefs later.

A CURSE UPON YOU ORANGE, MAY YOU END UP IN A SCREWDRIVER!

	22-10-2002 02:42									#23
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Okay Larry, you're in! You posted twice here, sounds like you want to play. I need preferences from you and orange.

	22-10-2002 03:00									#24
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I'll send them in tonight.

	22-10-2002 06:11									#25
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Prefs sent by PM.

	22-10-2002 06:12									#26
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Meh, I'll send them via email.

	22-10-2002 06:36									#27
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Got 'em, Larry! Thank you. I need four more war chiefs. Where's Berzerker when you need him?

	22-10-2002 07:22									#28
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i don't want prefs...just give me what's left

	26-10-2002 09:13									#29
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One spot left! Where's Berzerker?