15-10-2002 17:32									#1
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The turnchat will start in about an hour. Here is where I will post the save and any screenshots. I will also probably post my report here.

The save we are using is below if you would like to play along.

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	15-10-2002 18:06									#2
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It is a rerun

I'm going to start doing all the general and 580 orders now.

I'll start the real stuff in 20 minutes.

	15-10-2002 18:29									#3
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The chat is starting now in Undernet.

	15-10-2002 19:26									#4
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It took about an hour to finish the turn because of Holeinwall. It would have ended 30 minutes ago if it wasn't for that horrid thing.

It should speed up drastically now.

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	15-10-2002 19:49									#5
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CITY NAME CHANGES:

Ghengistown changes to Gotham

City on a Hill changes to Ghengistown

BFM changes to Whelsh Coast

Site E changes to Shiberport

Holeinwall changes to Hole in the Wall

Boom town changes to Boomtown

Last two were typos that have never been fixed.

	15-10-2002 20:08									#6
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Netsplit. I'm going to do PW orders now.

We have Gunpowder, Banking, and 2 Saltpeter!

One by Geofront.

	15-10-2002 20:13									#7
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quote: Originally posted by Apocalypse Netsplit. I'm going to do PW orders now. We have Gunpowder, Banking, and 2 Saltpeter! One by Geofront.

Last FAM order - Rome Ivory for Dyes;WM; 13LPT & 1L

I'm in poly chat

	15-10-2002 20:16									#8
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I'll do that FM order. I did the SMC orders too along with FM. That should do it for orders this turn. I won't end the turn before I come back to the chat.

Listen to me. Clear anything else up NOW. You don't need my input for anything. I don't care. Just get anything straighted up by the time I come back.

	15-10-2002 21:01									#9
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The turn was delayed a little because of a Netsplit and incomplete orders.

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	15-10-2002 21:39									#10
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Aztecs don't look that hostile anymore.

San Cortes was founded on the incense.

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	15-10-2002 22:05									#11
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Nothing much happend. Aztecs are still moving around.

Holeinwall is now connected to the Romans.

We will be connected to Saltpeter next turn.

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	15-10-2002 22:39									#12
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I believe the Aztecs might be scared. We got Astronomy for cheap - Banking, WM, 93L.

We are connected to Saltpeter near New York. There is still Saltpeter near Geofront. We could connect it ASAP to sell.

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	15-10-2002 23:27									#13
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We rushed a Temple in San Cortes because it looked like it was being squeezed and it lost its common border with the rest of our territory. The Harbor in AGC was also rushed to connect Uber with the rest of our territory.

This has been an incredibly productive chat. I'm just going to finish a couple orders this turn and the chat will be over.

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	15-10-2002 23:46									#14
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I ended the turnchat. Aggie explored a little in the Galleys. I also renamed some cities. I wanted to do some mapwhoring too, but E_T apparently had to leave. I'll post a report later tonight.

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	15-10-2002 23:47									#15
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Crap... lost what I wrote...

Brief report:
Techwhored Gunpowder, Banking and Astrology

Founded San Cortez (Aztec resistance camp)

Aggie got his upgrades

Frenchies and Aztecs acting up.

Got Ivory agian.

Heres the log.

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	16-10-2002 00:54									#16
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quote: Originally posted by E_T Last FAM order - Rome Ivory for Dyes;WM; 13LPT & 1L

This extremely irritates me, as I had specifically told E_T that we were not going to do the ivory deal, and I purposefully left it out of my orders for a reason.

Apoc is not at fault, as he had no idea that the last minute change was not authorized by me. However, E_T is hereby removed as Deputy Minister of Trade until further notice.

--Togas

	16-10-2002 01:00									#17
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The Ivory deal wasn't all bad. We did get Astronomy pretty cheap anyway. We also completed the whole Banking/Gunpowder deal cheaper than expected.

	16-10-2002 02:14									#18
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E_T has done a terrific job. He does not deserve this! A suspension, maybe, if Togas sees fit, but not a removal from duty.

	16-10-2002 02:22									#19
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E_T will be the next CP director (unless the election radically changes in the next day or so).

If he F*cked up, he F*cked up and so be it. ANY and all deputies serve at the whim of the elected official. Period. I could have fired Ninot for not doing anything for Ill de Rose Province as an RA (along with others, not to pick on Ninot), but I chose not to.

Overall I think E_T has done a good job, and will continue to do so in whatever capacity he chooses. However, in this situation, Togas is 100% correct.

GK

	16-10-2002 02:23									#20
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I agree with Shiber.

	16-10-2002 02:26									#21
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Why is the 580 AD Orders thread still topped?

And why isn't the 640 AD orders thread topped?

	16-10-2002 02:42									#22
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Because OPD didn't get a chance to log on yet.
I expect he'll come here in an hour, hour and a half. This is usually the time he logs on.

	16-10-2002 03:45									#23
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I understand where Togas is coming from.

I need to know, what province is San Cortes being included in???

	16-10-2002 05:26									#24
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Probably the same one that city south of it is included in.

Do you all like the name "San Cortes" BTW?

	16-10-2002 05:41									#25
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Just looked it up. Principality of Piña Colada would probably be where it goes. That province is rather small right now anyway and it includes former US cities and San Cortes was created to flip former US cities.

	16-10-2002 05:55									#26
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ET also did the exact opposite of GK and the regional administrator's orders for Holeinthewall. Even after it was pointed out to him he refused to follow the orders.

I certainly hope this is not how the entire term will go.

	16-10-2002 05:58									#27
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Report: 580 AD - 640 AD

580 AD
Only one major thing here. The Holeinwall problem was fixed just just rushed a settler and then starting a harbor. This seems to work for everyone.

590 AD
This is when the first major trade took place. We were able to aquire Banking then trade it for Gunpowder fairly cheaply - it cost quite a bit less than expected. We found two Saltpeter resources inside our border. One by New York and the other by my favorite city - GeoFront. France also has two Saltpeter resources very close to the border.

600 AD
San Cortes was founded on the incense. I hope everyone likes the name. Cortes really isn't a Saint, but he will seem like one if he is able to flip a couple Aztec cities and allow us to make some more good incense deals.

610 AD
Holeinwall wasconnected to the Romans. This basically allows it to grow more. Corruption still won't allow it to be that productive though.

620 AD
This was a great decade. We got Astronomy for cheap - Banking, WM, 93L. The Aztecs actually seem a little afraid of us right now. They may just be waiting to be connected to Iron so they can build some Pikemen in the US cities. Saltpeter was connected to New York too. I sent some workers to start a road to the GeoFront SP.

630 AD
A temple was rushed in San Cortes to start the road to culture flipping. The Harbor in AGC was also rushed to connect Uber with the rest of our territory.

640 AD
Not much done. San Cortes grew its borders out by means of the Aztec cities. I am confident they will be flipped.

	16-10-2002 17:07									#28
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quote: Originally posted by joncnunn Why is the 580 AD Orders thread still topped? And why isn't the 640 AD orders thread topped?

These days I'm more of a clerk than a president. A sorry end to my reign of terror.

	16-10-2002 20:33									#29
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quote: Originally posted by OPD These days I'm more of a clerk than a president. A sorry end to my reign of terror.

A History Channel biography:

"OPD: From President to Errandboy"
The true story of a President who had his powers leeched by his Ministers to the point that the highlight of his office was running to Subway for Aggie because they had given him a Diet Coke instead of Regular.........

	16-10-2002 20:34									#30
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OPD, awwww, "wah" lol

GF, don't worry, this term will be good.

Apoc - thank you, and yes I like the name.