03-12-1999 18:20									#1
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Hi,

I have a trigger which adds 4 pops to a city
and creates 2 pikemens when the city is create. I want to add a granary to this city.
How do you do that ?
The trigger is like below:

trigger 'MakeCities' when (city.built && (g.year <= 3) && (player.cities <= 10)) {
AddPops(city.1,4);
CreateUnit(player, UnitType("UNIT_PIKEMEN"), city.1.location, 0);
CreateUnit(player, UnitType("UNIT_PIKEMEN"), city.1.location, 0);
AddBuildingToBuildList(city.1, BuildingType("IMPROVE_SILO"));
}
[This message has been edited by slamp (edited December 03, 1999).]

	08-12-1999 21:15									#2
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Slamp is not the only one who wants to know. Can anyone help?

And, btw, does AddBuildingToBuildList actually create the building, or just put in the queue? I couldn't tell.

I am trying to resurrect my "Packages" idea from June - but I need a SLIC function that lets me add buildings to the city.

Wheathin

	11-12-1999 00:34									#3
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.... *ahem*

Still waiting to find out if you can use slic to add a building to city... anyone?

wheathin

	11-12-1999 05:26									#4
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Slamp,

I did not try the trigger you have outlined here as I think that you already have tried it without being lucky. Well, I do not see any way to do that, I am afraid. The "AddBuildingToBuildList" function does actually what it is saying - it adds a building to the build list (=build queue) of a given city. Unfortunately there is no "RushBuy" function in SLIC which would have enabled you to force a rush-buy (together with incremental gold) to build a building within one round as a work-around. Seems like this is a dead-end.

By the way, I have just visited your homepage. As I can not speak French, I might be wrong, but do you live in Toulouse ? If yes, we might meet next year as I will be in the area of Langeudoc Roussillon for a couple of days. Due to reading about Sierra's "Gabriel Knight 3" (and playing right now), I stumbled over the history of the Cathars, Rhennes-Le-Chateaux and have literally fallen in love with the lovely landscape and that mystery.


WesW,

You have asked in a seperate mail whether "I could write triggers so that any sea or space city starts with a pop of 3 and machine gunners.".

Now I won't go into SLIC coding anymore as PowerSLICs is finished and my vacation ends on Sunday. Also I have to admit ashamingly, I am now into another great game I already mentioned which puts CTP at least for the time being off my desk: "Gabriel Knight 3 - Blood of the Damned, Blood of the Sacred", a supérbe adventure game (GK1 and GK2 both have been 100% crap, but GK3 is simply stunning - mostly because of the detailed and mysterious story taking place in a beautiful area in France).

Still the below code which is based on Slamp's code should do what you need (Slamp, I assume you are fine that I have modified your above code a bit - if not, please shout):

trigger 'Slamp_TP_SupportSeaCities' when (city.built && IsUnderseaCity(city)) {
AddPops(city.1,2);
CreateUnit(player, UnitType("UNIT_MACHINE_GUNNER"), city.1.location, 0);
CreateUnit(player, UnitType("UNIT_MACHINE_GUNNER"), city.1.location, 0);
}

This code should give you a pop of 3 per sea city and 2 machine gunners in them as soon as the city is founded. I have tested this code and it works.

That's the good news. Now to the bad news...

Unfortunately, the corresponding "IsSpaceCity" function (to detect whether a city is located in space) is broken in CTP 1.2 (at least in my setup here) and thus can not be called from within SLIC. This means that no SLIC code can be applied to cities which have just been founded in space (there may be a solution, but I am 99% sure that I have not overlooked something).


Hope this helps - if not, go and purchase GK3 (http://www.sierrastudios.com/games/gk3) for the search of an ancient well-known item...


TP
[This message has been edited by TP (edited December 10, 1999).]

	11-12-1999 17:26									#5
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TP,

I lived in Toulouse (6 years), now I'm between Brussels (BE), Paris (FR) and The Hague (NL) for my job.
But I spend from times to times my holiday in Toulouse, so don't hesitate to e-mail me if you need some informations. I have a lot of good friend in Toulouse; And you where do you come from ?

Olivier aka Slamp
PS: when I'll have time, I'll translate my home page
[This message has been edited by slamp (edited December 11, 1999).]

	11-12-1999 17:29									#6
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I didn't have much time to dive into SLIC yet (although I've been planning to for a long time) but in dutcheeses functions.txt I found a function called 'FinishBuilding'. Can't this be used to complete a building in the build queue? I haven't tried it yet so it might do something completely different.

Another function I found here is 'TerrainType'. Can't you somehow investigate the type of terrain under a city to find out if it's a space city?

These might have been stupid suggestions but as I said: I still know very little about SLIC and I'm just trying to help (and learn).
[This message has been edited by Locutus (edited December 11, 1999).]

	11-12-1999 20:28									#7
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the "FinishBuilding" function just orders a city to finish building a settler if that is what it is doing (or something like that). It only works for settlers.

quite useless.

wheathin

	11-12-1999 21:48									#8
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Slamp,

Thanks a lot for talking a bit about you ! I may take your offer and send you a mail in a couple of weeks when I am going to start next year's vacation planning. Merci beaucoup ! My name is Thomas (age 28) and I am originally from the southern part of Germany (Black Forest) but moved to the Frankfurt area about 2.5 years ago due to job reasons. I might relocate to Switzerland though in 2000/2001 within the company where I am working right now.


Locutus,

Copied from SLIC readme which you can find at Apolyton too (I think in the modification section of CTP):

INT TerrainType(location)
Return the terrain type of the location.


TP

	12-12-1999 20:54									#9
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TP:
I know what TerrainType does, but what I meant to say is: Can't it be used as a work-around for the not functioning "IsSpaceCity"?
Something like this:

trigger 'SpaceCities' when (city.built && TerrainType(city.location)==space) {
stuff you want to do when space city is built
}

I'm not sure though if "space" can be used like that.

BTW I'm not sure what readme-file you're talking about. Could you mail that to me?

	12-12-1999 21:28									#10
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TP means: http://www.activision.com/games/civ...n/slicfunc.html
and http://www.activision.com/games/civilization/slic.html
and http://www.activision.com/games/civ...licbuiltin.html

Hope this help

	12-12-1999 21:59									#11
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thanx, don't know how it's possible but somehow I missed two of those. This is actually useful stuff.

	13-12-1999 00:55									#12
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This I posted a few days ago:

quote: ...IMHO the amount and quality of SLIC-documentation could be better...

I guess I owe Joe Rumsey (whoever that may be) an apology, his document wasn't so bad after all (I just missed a few hyperlinks). Sorry Joe.

	13-12-1999 01:10									#13
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Unfortunately this was never updated with the new functions of the 1.2 patch.

	13-12-1999 13:21									#14
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Are there pages like this for the FLIs, or any of the texts files?

I went to the CTP main site, and I couldn't find any links to those slic pages above.

	13-12-1999 18:35									#15
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WesW:
All docs on modifying files (SLIC, FLI or AIP) I know I found on Apolyton's Modification-section.
There you will find a link "SLIC documentation" which refers to the main document of the above links. The other links can be accessed from there with hyperlinks.
I haven't looked into the FLI or AIP docs yet, so I can't tell you if there any good.
[This message has been edited by Locutus (edited December 13, 1999).]

	14-12-1999 03:34									#16
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Locutus,

GREAT idea to use the TerrainType function as a workaround to check whether a city is actually a space city.

I haven't tried it (too less time these days), but I know that as soon as a city is built (which you can trigger via city.built) the city's location is saved in city.location.

So the trigger for space cities would most likely look like:

trigger 'Slamp_TP_SupportSpaceCities' when (city.built && TerrainType(city.location) == 20) {
AddPops(city.1,2);
CreateUnit(player, UnitType("UNIT_MACHINE_GUNNER"), city.1.location, 0);
CreateUnit(player, UnitType("UNIT_MACHINE_GUNNER"), city.1.location, 0);
}

Hope this works (I am especially not sure whether space is linked to the number 20, but it is the 20th entry in terrain.txt, so I suppose it is correct.

Can someone test please ?


TP

	14-12-1999 04:15									#17
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Sorry guys,


3 issues after my testing (I just had to do it, at least until now past midnight:

1. Not so bad:
The terrain number lies between 10 and 17 based on my testing, you have to find the final right number. Please use the following code:
trigger 'Slamp_TP_SupportSpaceCities' when (city.built) {
if (TerrainType(city.location) == XX) {
AddPops(city.1,2);
CreateUnit(player, UnitType("UNIT_MACHINE_GUNNER"), city.location, 0);
CreateUnit(player, UnitType("UNIT_MACHINE_GUNNER"), city.location, 0);
}
}

2. Slightly bad:
After building the "star ladder", the first space city you automatically get with this wonder, will NOT be affected by the SLIC code, i.e. it will stay a city with 1 pop and no gunmen.

3. Severly bad:
The gunmen which get created, are not created in space but on Earth just down the space tile where the new space city is. I do not see a way to find a solution for that currently.


TP

	14-12-1999 05:43									#18
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Keep plugging away, TP!
Btw, see the Awesome Aips thread for TheBirdMan's comments about Ectopia.

	14-12-1999 13:59									#19
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Glad I could help (for what it's worth anyway, if you can't even get your units actually in the city).
I'll try and do some testing tonight and see if I can get this thing to work properly. (I doubt it, because I've only been experimenting with SLIC for a few days, but maybe I'm lucky )

I also tried to get SLIC to create buildings in a city, but without results so far (not that I expected them). That really s*cks, I hadn't anticipated that would ever be a problem. Has anyone ever complained about this with Activision? Maybe they'll put it in a future patch.

Locutus

	17-12-1999 02:21									#20
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Hi all,
I've encountered some problems which prefented me from testing, but I had a few idea's that I thought I'd let you all know:

Firstly, I don't think it's necessary to know the number for the space-terrain (if someone messes with the terrain.txt file, this number may even change). It should be possible to replace the XX in the 'Slamp_TP_SupportSpaceCities'-trigger with TerrainType("TERRAIN_SPACE"). Correct me if I'm wrong, though.

Secondly, if you have your Machine Gunners underneath your city instead of into them, can't you use the SetOrder and AddOrder functions (with ORDER_LAUNCH from order.txt) to launch them into space? Or can this only be ordered to units who can normally be launched into space?

Well, that's it for now

Locutus