19-10-2002 11:03									#1
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I have noticed in recent games, that picking a 5 billion year old world, which has the fewest mountain/hill terrain squares, results in a map completely devoid of Gems. Considering that in these games, I always pick a wet climate (lots of jungle), and there are no gems on the map, I think this is a serious problem. Several times it has been brought up on the forums that many games are missing one or more luxury - does anyone know if this will be fixed in PtW?

It just seems strange that, despite the lack of substantially mountainous terrain, that in the extensive jungles there are no gems to be found. In fact, I don't recall seeing gems in jungle terrain since the days of 1.07f. Have gems been moved exclusively to mountains? And is this why my 5 billion-year-old-world games often result in no gems? Someone throw me a frickin bone on this one, because the 4 happy faces that I can't get in these games REALLY hurts.

	19-10-2002 14:45									#2
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alternative world--->happens

There have been maps with no oil or other vital resources. Think of it as a challenge

btw: did you rate your own thread???

	19-10-2002 15:16									#3
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Only the producer knows what will be in the final cut of PTW.

I doubt it will be changed though. A bit late to bring it up...

	19-10-2002 15:26									#4
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Civilopedia will tell you that gems can only be found in mountains, so no wonder you haven't seen any in the jungle....

	19-10-2002 18:52									#5
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Doesn't the number of types of available luxuries also depend on number of opponents and/or size of map?

	19-10-2002 19:08									#6
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Strangely, I've been getting maps with entirely too many gems!

Well, it was good for my empire because I was trading about 4 of them to other nations for a veritable CrapLoad of CASH.

	19-10-2002 19:36									#7
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I discovered the same thing, large map 4 billion, 7 resources, but no gems! And there were a lot of mountains...

	19-10-2002 19:42									#8
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Must be bad luck. Looking in the real rules (the editor) gems can be found on jungle and mountain tiles.

	20-10-2002 09:06									#9
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I seen gemless worlds several times. Playing Standard/Continents, it's happened to me maybe 3 times. It's always gems that are missing, never one of the other luxuries.

-Arrian

	20-10-2002 10:23									#10
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quote: Originally posted by alva848 btw: did you rate your own thread???

yes, I did. alcohol causes me to do some crazy things

	20-10-2002 12:23									#11
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For those who find that map settings at the extremes of the terrain settings don't generate some resources, then tweak the terrain settings with the editor.

Jungle: I make this the home of incense and oil .. so wet and dry worlds are equally blessed with resources.

Hills and mountains: Make good homes for lots of stuff.

Tundra: As well as oil, other stuff can be placed here so cold worlds get their share of resources.

Plains: In a wet world, you may get no deserts at all, so stuff like Oil that can be found in deserts should also appear here.

In short, diversify your terrain settings for all resources, so each resource can be found in at least three different terrains, preferably terrains at the extremes of warm and cold, wet and dry. I have always had good resources (including the game where I got 5 of 8 Uranium in 25% of the land).

	20-10-2002 21:21									#12
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quote: Originally posted by Lucilla Civilopedia will tell you that gems can only be found in mountains, so no wonder you haven't seen any in the jungle....

Oops, I was mistaken, gems can of course be also in jungle....