19-10-2002 23:13									#1
	Construction Shack - 700AD City Status Avatar Enlargement: We've got the solution

This is the chart showing our City status as of the End of Term IV:



I will be making some changes in Queue's and current builds (either in my first orders of the term or through changes in the save and then orders). I'll post the new chart here when I get the (proposed) changes done.

E_T

[Edit] The chart show 640 at the top, but it is for 700AD. I'll change it shortly.

Last edited by E_T on 21-10-2002 at 23:36

	20-10-2002 05:56									#2
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Very handy!

Sean.

	20-10-2002 10:09									#3
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I must say that I am very pleased to see a large number of cultural improvements.

	20-10-2002 17:54									#4
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Shouldn't the Granola come before the Bar?

Or or those alcholic bars?

	20-10-2002 19:20									#5
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quote: Originally posted by =OttomusCeasar= Shouldn't the Granola come before the Bar? Or or those alcholic bars?

Have you known of ANY city that has a Military Base WITHOUT a Bar close by?..........

(Gran)ery
(Bar)racks
And almost all of them are from two of the wonders that we have.

E_T

	21-10-2002 05:49									#6
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"I must say that I am very pleased to see a large number of cultural improvements."

There could be a few more...but overall it is a better situation than before.

Sean.

	21-10-2002 13:16									#7
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Ile de Rouge stuff for the next few turns:

Turn 0 Macross builds worker, grows to Pop 12 again. Build as per queue. City should stay happy unless we lose 2 lux

Turn 3 Jerusalem due to pop grow next turn, suggest we rush aqueduct this turn (cost 64). Build queue could be market, harbour, cathedral. Pop growth rate zero after size 7.

Here It Is builds cathedral in 13, grows in Pop in 6

Port ROuge builds market in 8, suggest we add courthouse to build queue

Opiadem is building cathedral (55 ToC) and has no growth due to no aqueduct.

	21-10-2002 18:30									#8
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HA!

Thought I fell off the face of the planet, didn't you?

I am here to butt heads once again! Nothing has changed!

I ask again (and will continue to do so until I get my way ) that you change the current build in NY to a cathedral, rush it as soon as possible and let it grow so it can do its flipper job. So its corrupt?! It job has nothing to do with production or commerce until the Palace/Forbidden Palace it complete. Besides, even with a courthouse, it will be so corrupt it won't make much of a difference. But most importantly, above ALL else, we need culture in Piña Colada. I have yet to hear any arguement that even comes close to showing me otherwise.

I also request that you NOT change the current build of Chiquita. Let that city grow. It has all the improvements inplace to ensure a happy city until size 12 plus it already has a courthouse. For every citizen this city has, it makes the courthouse more effecive. Let the courthouse do its job by letting the city grow!

Finally, I ask to rush the catherdal in San Cortez as soon as possible as the city is still in more danger of flipping to Greece (and subsequently flipping the Aztecs to them as well ) than accomplishing its sole purpose of existance (to flip Chicago and Washington).

	21-10-2002 18:32									#9
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oh yeah....

Great table ET, but could you organize it by province rather then size (add a colume with the province name and sort the list alphabeticly with this colume but don't print this colume. Just a suggestion, don't even know if it will work)?

	21-10-2002 19:04									#10
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quote: Originally posted by donegeal oh yeah.... Great table ET, but could you organize it by province rather then size (add a colume with the province name and sort the list alphabeticly with this colume but don't print this colume. Just a suggestion, don't even know if it will work)?

Why? Do you need to have all your cities grouped together so you can remember them? Your citizens would be shocked that their Administrator cannot remember what he administers!

Very nice looking, E_T. I look forward to implementing upcoming builds at your discretion.

	21-10-2002 19:09									#11
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Pbltpbltpbltpbltpbltpbltpbltpbltpbltpblt!!!!

	21-10-2002 19:31									#12
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quote: Originally posted by donegeal Besides, even with a courthouse, it will be so corrupt it won't make much of a difference.

I agree 100%. A courthouse MIGHT gain us an extra shield a turn once it's size 6+. How many shields did we invest in a courthouse to get that one shield?

Courthouses are so flipping useless, their usually the last improvement I build, usually after Synthetic Fibers when I'm at peace and have a Treasury so full that Wealth is starting to bore me..........

	21-10-2002 21:17									#13
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quote: Originally posted by donegeal HA! Thought I fell off the face of the planet, didn't you? I am here to butt heads once again! Nothing has changed! I ask again (and will continue to do so until I get my way ) that you change the current build in NY to a cathedral, rush it as soon as possible and let it grow so it can do its flipper job. So its corrupt?! It job has nothing to do with production or commerce until the Palace/Forbidden Palace it complete. Besides, even with a courthouse, it will be so corrupt it won't make much of a difference. But most importantly, above ALL else, we need culture in Piña Colada. I have yet to hear any arguement that even comes close to showing me otherwise.

NY currently has 85% Corruption & Waste which will become 55% after the courthouse is installed. The Cathedral will be next and will be rushed for a smaller cost than without the Court (out put will be 3 instead of 1, without any additinal Tile Improvements). Infrastructure is being improved their as well and the extra shields will be able to go into production output (namely the Cath) would be an advantage. I'll link in my Corruption Statistics Post as soon as I get it up.

[EDIT] Here's the promiced Construction Shack - 700AD Corruption & Waste Statistics Thread.

quote: I also request that you NOT change the current build of Chiquita. Let that city grow. It has all the improvements inplace to ensure a happy city until size 12 plus it already has a courthouse. For every citizen this city has, it makes the courthouse more effecive. Let the courthouse do its job by letting the city grow! Finally, I ask to rush the catherdal in San Cortez as soon as possible as the city is still in more danger of flipping to Greece (and subsequently flipping the Aztecs to them as well ) than accomplishing its sole purpose of existance (to flip Chicago and Washington).

I'm only about 20% throught the save, making the orders as I go. I should have it done by tonight. I've already requested funds for over 1000 Lytons to rush courthouses and other stuff and I realize the IMPORTANCE of San Cortez (can MrWIA change the s to z) to the Flip 'Em Off plan and will Rush it ASAP, depending on Funds.

I still have to look a Chiquita.

E_T

P.S. Please post this stuff in either the Contractors thread or your Regional threads, as I currently look at these more Often. But this is still good for Debate, which is partly what this tread is for.

E_T

	22-10-2002 00:09									#14
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quote: Originally posted by donegeal oh yeah.... Great table ET, but could you organize it by province rather then size (add a colume with the province name and sort the list alphabeticly with this colume but don't print this colume. Just a suggestion, don't even know if it will work)?

Hey, I'm still getting organized and their are only so many hours ion the day. I plan on breaking this up by provence, but it still takes time to set up the spread sheets. That's part of my master list, that I can just quickly update and have all of the other sheets be automatically updated (I LOVE Excel:love. The sheet of the Corruption statistics, Construction Shack - 700AD Corruption & Waste Statistics is about 4 times wider that the part that is published, for all of the Calculations and Formulas.

E_T

	22-10-2002 23:03									#15
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I've changed some Builds, Queues & WF Placements for this next Gameplay. Here is a list of what it is now and the save. The changes are Marked in Gray.



Wealth is being used a a Queue Placeholder for something that currently can't be built. THey will be changed in future orders.

Here is the new save:

E_T

Attachment: banana of the egyptians,cpsave,700 ad.sav
This has been downloaded 2 time(s).

	23-10-2002 01:49									#16
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Good job with these charts.

Time is the big killer in this job. It takes a lot of it, and you need to be flexable and change things at a whim (ie, like when the persians and germans decided to attack us, almost all built priorities changed).

Keep up the excelent work.

PS, if you can email me the spreadsheet you are using, I might be able to do this with some of the older saves from when I was CP, if that would be of any help.

	23-10-2002 03:53									#17
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quote: Originally posted by GodKing Good job with these charts. Time is the big killer in this job. It takes a lot of it, and you need to be flexable and change things at a whim (ie, like when the persians and germans decided to attack us, almost all built priorities changed).

I'll be having conditions for if emergencies happen and I'm away. Setting up the sheats took most of the time.

quote: Keep up the excelent work. PS, if you can email me the spreadsheet you are using, I might be able to do this with some of the older saves from when I was CP, if that would be of any help.

I'll send it to you soon

E_T