21-10-2002 07:42									#1
	Question about automating workers, and captured cities....... Avatar Enlargement: We've got the solution

Ok, I've got two unrelated questions............

First, when you automate workers, is there any way to keep them from changing existing improvements? I've got so many, that i've set a bunch to automate, and they are running around flooding my mined grasslands and prairies. Ive got my cities at a manageable level, and don't need growth as much as I need production. I thought I read somewhere you could keep them from changing existing improvements, but I dont' know where I saw it.... Any help?


And two, i've had to capture some cities FAR away from my capital and FP (damn zulus wouldn't keep on their side of the border, so they had to be taught a lesson, and exterminated from the globe), and the corruption/waste make them basically useless. What can I do with them? I've got 1.29f, and I put the corruption down to 80% in the editor before starting the game, but still, cities that are not that far away seem to lose all but one sheild to waste.

I'm in a democracy and I've got a huge military, so drafting the citizens is not really necessary. What are those cities good for? I've thought about pulling my troops out and just giving them away to curry favor, but that seems like somewhat of a waste. Any ideas on this too?

	21-10-2002 07:49									#2
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I give my unmanageable Zulu cities to a friendly civ that shares borders with my territory and with the Zulus. Especially if they were almost wiped out by the Zulus. Wait for them to make peace with Shaka first, tho. It doesn't make them like me better but it makes me feel kinda powerful.

	21-10-2002 07:53									#3
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quote: Originally posted by wvfoos Ok, I've got two unrelated questions............ First, when you automate workers, is there any way to keep them from changing existing improvements? I've got so many, that i've set a bunch to automate, and they are running around flooding my mined grasslands and prairies. Ive got my cities at a manageable level, and don't need growth as much as I need production. I thought I read somewhere you could keep them from changing existing improvements, but I dont' know where I saw it.... Any help?

Sure thing. Should be shift + a.

	21-10-2002 07:53									#4
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Sure! Shift-a

	21-10-2002 11:46									#5
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You can try to disband these cities, although if you do that some other civ will walk right up there and settle to make their own cities which will bring you back to zero. You can use them as outposts, remember that resources may pop up anywhere in the game and some may appear excactly there. On the other side you can use them as outposts or military bases. If you have to get rid of them you may want to see if you can trade them with some other civ, you may be able to get a lot out of it!

I usually keep them because I want my borders as extended as possible because of resources. I set them to build a military unit, which takes ages but I do hurry by buying it at some point.

So long...

	21-10-2002 11:50									#6
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I just let them crank on a temple or wealth until they get productive. If they do not, then they stay on wealth.

	21-10-2002 12:08									#7
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as i've just said in the other thread on this subject, remote ( oversea ) cities are pretty much useless production wise and you'll just have to hope that your treasury is full enough to rush through any projects that you want built in less than 50 - 80 turns.

	21-10-2002 16:09									#8
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You could always try Communism. In some circumstances it can be beneficial. I find that I take a big gold/tech hit but my shields go up a lot, especially if Idevelop all of my cities rather than just the productive core. Remember, in Communism there is no core.

	21-10-2002 16:24									#9
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Corrupt cities = strategic resources late in the game. Production and cash come from your two core areas, around the palace and around the FP. Don't worry about the rest, they are usually not worth the bother.

	21-10-2002 16:34									#10
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Try palace-hopping, too. Once the area near your palace is developed the cities near it won't suffer TOO much if you move it elsewhere to lower corruption. European countries used to do it all the time....

	21-10-2002 16:41									#11
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In addition, corrupt cities = culture points if you rush build the appropriate structures.

The other thing you can do to reduce corruption is to get a WLTKD going in the corrupt cities. This can give a major boost.

	21-10-2002 16:56									#12
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quote: Originally posted by wvfoos First, when you automate workers, is there any way to keep them from changing existing improvements?

Shift-A as already mentioned, plus Ctrl-Shift-I to improve around a specific city.

quote: the corruption/waste make them basically useless. What can I do with them? I've got 1.29f, and I put the corruption down to 80% in the editor before starting the game, but still, cities that are not that far away seem to lose all but one sheild to waste.

If they need improvements, just buy them. If you have a strong, productive and profitable core, then you should have plenty of ready cash to build Courthouses, Police Stations, and whatever else you might want or need. Or just build a Temple and forget about them. Or build lots of workers.

Kabul needs massive infusions of cash to build important infrastructure. Even then, it will won't approach the productivity of Detroit.

	21-10-2002 16:58									#13
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Is there a way to automate them in this way?

Auto mine only

Auto irrigate only

Auto road only

Auto rail only etc???

Thanks

Gunter

	21-10-2002 18:45									#14
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HOTKEY 		DESCRIPTION

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A               Automate

SHIFT-I         Auto-nearest city only

SHIFT-A         Auto-no alter improvements

CTRL-SHIFT-I    Auto-nearest city/no alter imprv

SHIFT-P         Auto-clean pollution only

SHIFT-F         Auto-clear forest only

SHIFT-J         Auto-clear jungle only

I               Irrigate

CTRL-I          Irrigate to nearest city

SHIFT-C         Clear forest

SHIFT-C         Clear jungle

SHIFT-C         Clear pollution

CTRL-F          Build fortress

M               Mine

N               Reforest

R               Build road

SHIFT-R         Build railroad

B               Join city-adds one citizen

B               Build colony

CTRL-B          Build road to waypoint/Colonize

CTRL-R          Build road to waypoint

CTRL-SHIFT-R    Build railroad to waypoint

CTRL-N          Build trade (road/railroad)network (doesn’t work too well)

	21-10-2002 22:22									#15
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quote: Originally posted by Demerzel as i've just said in the other thread on this subject, remote ( oversea ) cities are pretty much useless production wise and you'll just have to hope that your treasury is full enough to rush through any projects that you want built in less than 50 - 80 turns.

Actually I discovered that remote cities go from one shield to two after I build the FP, no matter where I build it. It seems like a pittance, except for the fact that your production DOUBLES in these cities. Can reduce even more with a rushed CH.