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Siberia, Communist party of Apolyton
Nov 2001
time: 11:23
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Last news,
It’s admitted that Australian, Canadian and American citizens are among the hostages too.
I just saw video how small group of hostages are escaping. Total number grows to 52. No info about killed or injured. Also I just saw an interview with head of Muslim Church of Russia. He said that anything can’t justify such actions. That in accordance with Koran people who kill innocents will be punished in hell. Also he said that he had emergency meeting with president Putin and that president called this act- a provocation against all Muslim people of Russia. That people who did this would like to see grow of hatred between peoples of different religious confessions. The head of Muslim Church of Russia said that if those people consider themselves Muslims they should release all hostages, because there is no single goal, which deserves to be achieved, through such means as blood of innocent people.
Also I saw interview with Alexandr Zecalo popular showman and producer of this musical. He admitted again that there are still many children who are part of theater troupe held inside. And he asked terrorists once again to release children.
Now terrorists demand a foreign doctor who speaks Russian for negotiations. (I guess they don’t know what they actually want, so many different demands) However there is no info about victims among the hostages. Earlier there was information that terrorists threaten to start to kill hostages.
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Arctic Hill
May 2001
time: 07:23
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quote:
Originally posted by Serb
Several minutes ago one of the news chanels (almost all TV chanels show the situation on-line) said that they heard sound of explosion inside of the theater. They suggest it was grenade. They suggest that more probably it was acident, not the beggining of speznaz operation. |
This was taken from Kavkaz.org, the chechen news agency (very biased, of course).
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2002-10-24 11:34:21
Mujahideen threw grenade into empty room
Agency Kavkaz Center for a short period was contacted by assistant of Movsar Barayev and reported that the explosion really occurred in the building of the House of Culture. The reason for explosion was the grenade been thrown by Mujahideen into one of the empty rooms of the building for preventive measures. There are no casualties.
2002-10-24 10:47:32
Militiaman has been killed
Assistant of Movsar Barayev rang into editorial staff of Kavkaz Center and reported that at approximately 6 o'clock in the morning was killed one of the militiamen, who approached the central entrance of the House of Culture under the guise of a drunken person and asked to enter. After several warnings, mujahideen shot dead the militiaman. |
EDIT: a woman (a FSB agent accoring to KavKaz) has also supposedly been shot dead by the chechen terrorists.
Last edited by Hurricane on 24-10-2002 at 18:14
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Dr Strangelove
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I think that in the light of events transpiring over the past few weeks the United States should offer assistance to the Russian federation in support of their struggle against a common terrorist foe in the hopes that they will make a complimentary offer.
Are we going to wait for them to strike Western Europe as well?
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Eli
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Israel
Jul 2000
time: 07:23
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quote:
Originally posted by Dr Strangelove
Are we going to wait for them to strike Western Europe as well? |
The answer is quite obvious.
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des-esseintes
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Edited by Ming...
If you continue posting crap like the stuff I just deleted, you are toast... 
Last edited by Ming on 24-10-2002 at 19:36
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Eli
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Israel
Jul 2000
time: 07:23
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quote:
Originally posted by DanS
What makes people think that attacking obvious innocents is a good tactic? What a fundamental miscalculation. |
Because it IS a good tactic.
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Lars-E
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Wonder if the Stockholm syndrome will manifest itself... Doesn't look like it so far...
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GePap
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of the Big Apple
Nov 2001
time: 23:23
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Originally posted by Boris Godunov
I do wonder how this will effect the Russian stance on Iraq at the UN. While not immediately related, this kind of action might make Russians more amenable to action provided the US be less vocal about what action they might take in Chechnya as a response. |
The situation won't change Russia's stand one bit: connections between Iraq and Chechnya are about 0, and since the Russians don't buy the Iraq-Al Qaeda connection anymore than I do, you won't see much change, as long as Saddam doesn't praise the chechen, which he would never do. Russia's gov and elite make foreign policy: they don't see Iraq as part of the 'war on terror', never have, and they still won't.
I think the sitation will end badly. It obvious that the demands wil not be met, and the track record for endidng these mass hostage situations is rather poor (about 100 killed back in '97 after 1000 hostages taken, and 78 killed in another hostage situation). The Chechens have gained much skill it seem, in their favorite type of attack within Russia, though this is obviously the most brazen and spectacular of them, since its in Moscow itself.
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Serb
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Siberia, Communist party of Apolyton
Nov 2001
time: 11:23
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Yes, it was confirmed that they killed one hostage yesterday- a 20 years old girl. The body was removed from theater.
Two 18 years girls managed to escape not so long ago. Terrorists opened fire from RPG, on them. There were two explosions. Fortunately they weren’t injured, however one specnaz fighter received light injury.
Also it was said again that citizens of 18 foreign countries among the hostages.
quote:
Wonder if the Stockholm syndrome will manifest itself... Doesn't look like it so far... |
It is already. They released one woman to make a declaration. It seems hostages already in deep psychological crisis and considers terrorists as their protectors.
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Bereta_Eder
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Serb I am very sorry for all of this and I hope that everything will go as best as it can.
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Serb
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Siberia, Communist party of Apolyton
Nov 2001
time: 11:23
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Originally posted by Saint Marcus
Chechens won't gain independence either way. They just want to take as many Russians with them when they go down. |
Don’t use this Chechens=terrorists. A lot of Chechen people who live in Moscow offered themselves in exchange for hostages. The head of Chechnya Akhmad Kadyrov said that Chechens ready to help to solve the situation by any means. There are meetings in Chechnya to condemn terrorists.
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Serb
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Siberia, Communist party of Apolyton
Nov 2001
time: 11:23
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Thanks Paiktis I hope so.
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