24-10-2002 03:33									#1
	Next SP's and Where? Got spare money?

We seem to have a lot of confusion as to what and where things are happening with the SP's, so this is for a better consensus on what to do.

For reference - we currently have the HGP with 8 turns to go in NA and the Merchant Exchange just started in NS. Gaians & Morgan are also building the HGP, and Miriam is also buiding the ME.

Poll ends at the beginning of turnchat Saturday!

Last edited by Makahlua on 24-10-2002 at 03:49

	24-10-2002 03:52									#2
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NA: VW
NS: HGP
Write in: upon discovery of indus auto, or loss of VW, switch to PTS

	24-10-2002 04:20									#3
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We should finish the current assignments before beginning the VW.

	24-10-2002 05:12									#4
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We should get crawlers out there and pulling in the minerals if possible before beginning any new projects. We'd be playing catchup to others anyway, so let's do it with bases pulling in 20 minerals and with the ability to cash in its crawlers for a quick rush.

	24-10-2002 12:17									#5
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VW in NA, or wherever can build it first. Anything else is optional and of secondary importance. We'll be saving 3 maintenance per turn per base and still get the benefits of Holo Theatres. This will be critical - think of it as Mike's Chapel in Civ2 or Civ3.

	24-10-2002 12:40									#6
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Write in: build PTS in New Suez upon discovery of IndAuto.

	24-10-2002 14:10									#7
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VW in New Poly. ME in Panama.

	24-10-2002 15:16									#8
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Me in Ns is good. This base will have large minerals amounts really soon, and it is our best chance to secure some SP in one base. Ie, if you build ME+SuperCollider+Theory of everything+Spatial elevator in the same base. Better keep them for the base with the largest amount of minerals, and crawl energy when it comes to be worthy.

	24-10-2002 15:38									#9
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Spatial Elevator?
Do you mean the Network Backbone? or the Space Elevator?
Just reread it Space Elevator doubles Energy Production in this Base.. never notived that before

	24-10-2002 15:41									#10
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It's certainly not the elevator's most useful feature.

	24-10-2002 19:27									#11
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Space elevator, my bas. It doubles the energy output, with the merchant exchange, and the super collider and the theory of everything in the same base, you have (2X+base_size)x4 instead of X labs output. Add the network node, fusion lab, research hospital, etc... and you have Babylon.

	24-10-2002 20:38									#12
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You forgot the Network Backbone. +1 Research at the base for every Network Node in existance on Planet.

Problem.......such a base isn't especially viable except if it's your HQ. Even in a para. economy, you'll get some inefficiency from HQ distance, and that screws things up. Furthermore.......where the hell are we going to put the energy farm we'd need to get it really going?

	24-10-2002 22:04									#13
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VW before HGP - as PK's we have its effect already "built in". Completing VW enables us to leave Holos off of every base's build queue.

"Gaians & Morgan are also building the HGP, and Miriam is also buiding the ME."

Are other factions no longer building the VW?

	25-10-2002 01:01									#14
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	25-10-2002 01:19									#15
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How long have some of these factions been building those for? We can probably figure out how far they are along.

In any case, if they go for too long, and we snatch the project from them, they'll switch to a new one and beat us to it. Which might cause someone else to switch, and so on. We probably won't get them all, so we need to straighten out some priorities.

	25-10-2002 03:38									#16
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At this stage I go for the HGP and then Virtual World. However what Archaic says is true.

	25-10-2002 04:24									#17
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We have a decent, easily created and safe energy park already... the whole freshwater sea. We should use that for a Super Science City in Panama. Eventually, we can crawl the ridge as well. Panama is close enough to New Poly so that inefficiency wont matter and if any perfectionist would bother it's easy enough to move the capital with the kind of mineral prod Panama will have.

ME in Panama! VW in New Poly!