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What should the degree of 'Continentality' be? (0 = Islands, 10 = Continent) (Time out:0 days after 24-10-2002, 20:24)
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Locutus is offline Locutus
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Nov 1999
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What on a scale from 0 to 10, should the degree of 'Continentality' be? (0 = Islands, 10 = Continent)

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Too many and too small islands are bad for the AI and bad for an interesting game therefore more islands should be there but not to much also the marine aspect of the game should be existent. Therefor I prefer a medium setting but sligtly in advance of the island setting therefore my vote is 4.

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Land!!!
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Depends on the amount of land mass. If there is < 50% land, then we should have more islandy. If there is > 50% land, it should be continentally.

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No man is an island. And lemurs can’t swim. 10!

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I wish I would have posted when I voted cause now I forgot

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This poll has a curious dichotomy. How will the choice be made? as the mean, median or mode of the votes (orsome other method)?..

Martin Gühmann is offline Martin Gühmann
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This poll has a curious dichotomy. How will the choice be made? as the mean, median or mode of the votes (orsome other method)?..


As it looks now mean would be the second best method, of course the best method would be now just take the option with the most votes.

-Martin

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Depends on the amount of land mass. If there is < 50% land, then we should have more islandy. If there is > 50% land, it should be continentally.


well, i would say it the other way round, i like fair too big continents, but a couple of them. so there can be clearly distinct regions/zones of strategic interest or whatever, at least until the arrival of icbms.

p.s. didn't vote so far and probably won't do, until the modquestion is decided

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This poll has a curious dichotomy. How will the choice be made? as the mean, median or mode of the votes (orsome other method)?..

Well, these polls are rather unusual as someone who voted 3 probably wouldn't object to 2 or 4 either. So I think the most democratic thing to do would be to have a second round with the values that have a lot of votes 'around' them. With the current standing in this poll, that would mean to make a second poll where people can choose for 4, 8 or 10. When (in this or one of the other Map Setting polls) one of the options gets a large portion of the votes but not an absolute majority, we should probably have a 'conformation' poll in which we ask "Do you object against a Land Mass of 7?" (or whatever). When one of the options has an absolute majority (not counting abstain votes), no need for further polling is needed, obviously. But that's just my €0.02, maybe others have better ideas...

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Who votes in 8 or 10 doesnt feel bad to have a 9. You said yourself.
So why makes things complicated. I am in favour of a median.

Should we vote???

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Yes, when neighours are counted, 8 and 9 have an equal number of votes, but 8 has more votes than 9 - that does count for something. I know it's rather arbitrary, but that why I think more people should vote in this poll (Only half of all citizens have voted so far)

Maybe it should be looked at more on a poll-by-poll basis. Since the vote in this particular poll for some people also depends on the outcome of the Landmass poll, maybe a second round with even more options would be needed (4-10?) once we know the outcome of that poll (which would seem to almost certainly be 7)...

Median might work out in this case, but generally speaking it has the problem that if half the people vote for a high value and the other half for low a value, the end-result of the poll is rather random: 1 vote can make the difference between a high value, a low value or a medium value (in which case noone will be happy with the outcome).

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I would have loved to play on 4, but, as people have said earlier, the AI can't really handle islands, so I voted 8.

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This poll has a curious dichotomy. How will the choice be made? as the mean, median or mode of the votes (orsome other method)?..


This is easy. Just get folks in Florida to start counting.

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8 or 9, emphasis on land and large continents...

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