26-10-2002 05:49									#1
	Morgan's Voodoo Economics Inflate your Upload Space

Just whiling away some time and started a single-player OCC game (as Datajack)

It's 2141, and I'm alone on a small island, have just spent 40 credits changing to FM, have 6 credits in the bank, and Morgan calls

We trade techs, sign a friendship treaty, and I pop the question "Shall we pact?"

"I'd love to", he replies, "but only if you can see your way to sending me -50 credits"

"Sure", I reply, "no problem". I wire the -50 credits, and we pact.

And, of course, I now have 56 credits in the bank!!

Ah well

G.

	26-10-2002 06:05									#2
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now that's cool!

	26-10-2002 06:16									#3
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So, IOW, he asked if he could pay you for a Pact?

	26-10-2002 15:43									#4
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You must be a real WorldPower then :=)

	26-10-2002 17:27									#5
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Ah, computers. Gotta love 'em. Especially when they do something so stupid it's actually funny.

	28-10-2002 03:58									#6
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You have to have artificial stupidity before you can have AI.

	28-10-2002 08:59									#7
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that's kick a**! I've never seen it happen, but I would like to!

	28-10-2002 14:22									#8
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The evil side of this, is that you CAN technically do the same on a superficial/unadvised HUMAN player....

I think to recall that I once in a game I can't remember, tired to put that 0 energy in the box to make the message pop up by the other guy, and as a prvocation as a negotiation was going sour, I put -100 energy in the box... I think it was with Mongoose himself...

Well, to my suprise he told me that I almost got him, he was just about to accept, giggling at how could I be so confused to gift him 100ec, when at the very last moment he noticed the little minus sign in front of the sum....
I never for one moment imagined that he could overlook and trigger the trap, I only intended it as an evident gauntlet slap in the face....

	28-10-2002 14:26									#9
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Now that is funny.

	28-10-2002 19:39									#10
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quote: Originally posted by GeneralTacticus Now that is funny.

Truly! It's one thing to gotcha the not-AI, but a human? Well done! Must be all the sleep deprivation we endure for the game . . .

	28-10-2002 21:27									#11
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	28-10-2002 23:19									#12
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MariOne, I plead Guilty with extenuation by distraction. JAMiAM and I were deep in plans to probe rape MoSe Biochemical?, Genaciv was being his normal duplicitious self and I was near to war with Marc...

Wish we could have finished that one, it was building up to be a barnburner.

	29-10-2002 20:33									#13
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Morgan often offers negative money for a pact. I have not seen negative money come up at any other time except from devious human players, as you mention!

	30-10-2002 03:25									#14
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Next time, you say, "Let's make it 5K, K?"

	26-01-2003 08:34									#15
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*bump*

I normally just lurk the AC portion of the site and I hate to bump an old thread back to the top while I'm just mining the AC threads for anything useful, but this thread is the best named thread I have ever seen... I love the reference

	29-01-2003 04:26									#16
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Morgans once SOLD me their last base, and got eradicated the next turn

	29-01-2003 04:42									#17
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I once tried to test out whether or not negative energy could be traded in a SMACv4 PBEM where I was playing two different factions - I offered negative ec's to my alter ego and accepted it, but nothing seemed to change hands.

OTOH, in another (SMAX) PBEM an experienced player offered me the negative ec's along with a truce, preaccepted; I didn't notice the minus sign, but didn't accept as I was thinking that he hadn't really meant to accept it in advance. When I said something about it to him, he said that it was a trap, so I guess he thought it would go through if I had accepted.

	29-01-2003 09:43									#18
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quote: Originally posted by Datajack Franit Morgans once SOLD me their last base, and got eradicated the next turn

BWHAHAHAAHA

	08-02-2003 23:24									#19
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I guess that's capitalism at its best - sacrificing literally all for the mighty dollar.

	17-02-2003 15:11									#20
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Have anyone actually managed to fool anyone with this "entrapment" and does it really work against other faction being the active part insread of the passive part as the case with morgan?

	18-02-2003 13:40									#21
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Sounds like Morgan needed a tax writeoff.
I've never seen this before.

	27-02-2003 23:54									#22
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Morgan is fun to play and to play against, the Voodoo Economics really rock.