27-10-2002 00:42									#1
	Secret of Monkey Island and Curse of Monkey Island - what happens inbetween? Support Apolyton, buy Civilization: The Boardgame

I considered putting in spoiler space in here, but then decided that if you express interest in this thread but haven't played through Secret of Monkey Island, then you're a big stupid stupid-head anyhow, and deserve to be spoilered.

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I made you out of clay
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Now then. Ending of SoMI is rather legendary - Guybrush and LeChuck are revealed to be small children playing in an amusement park, and parents take them away. However, LeChuck's ("Chuckie's") eyes flash and he appears to be doing some magic, leaving room for doubt that there's something more than meets the eye going on here. And in the start of CoMI, Guybrush is floating in a bumper car, and we're (to my memory) never really explained WTF happened.

So, WTF happened?

	27-10-2002 01:11									#2
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He escaped the 'Carnival of the Damned', a place created, in part, by the magic spell cast on Guybrush.

	27-10-2002 01:15									#3
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quote: If you read Fone_Bone_2001's Article (LeChuck's Life and Plot Holes of MI4) you will notice how he comments on the end of Monkey Island 2. He couldn't have explained it better - "Yes, it is very weird. What is actually happening is that LeChuck is imprisoning Guybrush in the Carnival of the Damned. The whole "brother" thing is an illusion. His fortress in MI2 was probably a temporary location while the Carnival was being built. It is finished by the end of Monkey 2 and is destroyed at the beginning of Monkey 4, when Ozzie Mandrill pulls LeChuck out of the ice. We have to assume that LeChuck's power increased for some reason, which is why he can change forms in MI4." At the carnival in CMI (the part where you are talking to LeChuck), LeChuck tells you that you are not his brother and that the Carnival IS the famous treasure of Big Whoop

	27-10-2002 01:24									#4
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quote: At the carnival in CMI (the part where you are talking to LeChuck), LeChuck tells you that you are not his brother and that the Carnival IS the famous treasure of Big Whoop

I don't remember this being told.

Didn't Big Whoop open the gates to hell?

	27-10-2002 01:47									#5
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Big Whoop is the 'Rollercoaster to Hell' in the carnival.

	28-10-2002 21:37									#6
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anyone know where i can download monkey island1&2? can't find it anywhere...

	28-10-2002 23:22									#7
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This is the Spanish version of Monkey Island 1.

http://www.avilescd.org/personales/rolerweb/Monkey.zip

	28-10-2002 23:31									#8
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In English, link at the bottom.

http://www.pc.clara.net/old/monkey1/

	29-10-2002 02:17									#9
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The debates on this have been running for years.......many believe the dream story......others don't. The guy responsible for 1 & 2 never got to do the 3rd part of _his_ trilogy, and he wont say what his plans for the secret were.

I think the attempt was made in Curse to support the dream story, since one section is in the now ruined carnival of the damned. There are inconsistencies of course, because it's only a game. The definitive reference is:

http://www.scummbar.com/stuff/links/

Essays, discussion and general monkey-islandness abound.